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Old 01-12-2007, 05:03 PM   #1
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So I brewed a christmas ale on 11/24. I know the recipe is weird, but I had the DME and WME for free because the HBS messed up measurements for my first beer and gave it to me for free, figured I might as well use it.

4.7lbs Dark Malt Extract
3.3 lbs Wheat Malt Extract
1lb Honey
1lb Pale Malt Extract

1lb Crystal 15L
1/2 lb Caramunich 60L

2tsp Cinnamon
1oz Fresh Ginger (grates

1 oz Amarillo 9.8%
1 oz Wilamette 4.9%

WLP 820 Oktoberfest/Marzen Lager Yeast

OG 1.069 @ 60*F

Steeped grains as water came up to temp, held at 160*F 30 mins, removed grain bad, brought to boil, added extracts/honey and Amarillo, boil 45 mins, add ginger, cinnamon and wilamette and 1/4tsp irish moss, boil 15 mins. Cooled, filtered and pitched yeast at ~70*F. Primary @65* ~1.5 weeks until fermentation slowed , has been in secondary @55*C with another oz of wilamette since then (~6 weeks).

SG is at 1.024 @ 6*F and had been steady there for a couple weeks. It tastes really good, the ginger and cinnamon were really strong in the wort, they have mellowed out a lot.

Can I bottle it? Seems the SG is still high, don't want to blow up bottles. I can also borrow a buddy's kegging setup he isn't using and just get it, force carbonate and not worry about blowing up bottles....I'd rather bottle it though so I can transport it.

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Old 01-12-2007, 05:18 PM   #2
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Sounds like it's ready for keg to me! You might have to age it out a bit if you are getting some off flavors, WLP820 likes 50-55 for primary and high 30's for clearing. In the end, it should be a very good beer!
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:27 PM   #3
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Sounds like it's ready for keg to me! You might have to age it out a bit if you are getting some off flavors, WLP820 likes 50-55 for primary and high 30's for clearing. In the end, it should be a very good beer!
There aren't any off flavors I can detect, it is a bit sweet, but it is mellowed a lot by the dry hopping, I can see it being really tasty cold and carbonated. I did ferment at slightly high temps, but hey, what can I do...

I'll keg it this weekend I guess.
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The higher temps won't kill you....you've just got to be aware of those flavors. Over 6 weeks in clearing will definitely minimize that, though. I definitely think you are ready to keg/bottle so enjoy and bottoms up!!!
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That's only about 65% attenuation. That seems awfully low for a wort with honey in it: honey should lead to a drier beer, since it is more highly fermentable than malt.

Do you know the attenuation range for your yeast strain?
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I believe it's 65-72% for WLP820.....I have recently used it. So he's borderline.....but ok?
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65-73% is listed. So he's on the low range, which, yeah, seems low when there's honey involved, but not impossible.

Here's what I'd do: stir up the trub a little bit, and up the temps for a few days. See if there's any airlock activity and/or change in gravity. If there's not, I wouldn't worry about any bottle bombs.

Colorado: did you aerate your wort? I've seen low attenuation way too many times, but that was before I got my aeration kit.
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65-73% is listed. So he's on the low range, which, yeah, seems low when there's honey involved, but not impossible.

Here's what I'd do: stir up the trub a little bit, and up the temps for a few days. See if there's any airlock activity and/or change in gravity. If there's not, I wouldn't worry about any bottle bombs.

Colorado: did you aerate your wort? I've seen low attenuation way too many times, but that was before I got my aeration kit.
I have done the stirring and higher temp thing already, I noticed airlock activity but I am pretty sure it was from the beer de-gassing CO2 because of the increase in temperature, didn;t see any drop on SG after a week of this.

I probably didn't aerate the wort enough, has been a problem on my first two beers, wasn't really sure what was needed, next batch, I am going to shake the crap out of the fermenter. Aeration kit will have to wait for the spring/summer, I am poor now


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