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4traindays 09-11-2012 11:45 PM

american ipa extract recipe, tastes fruity, thoughts?
 
hello all, im new to home brewing, bought an extract kit from a store several weeks ago. american ipa kit, safale-05 yeast used. in primary for 7 days at 75 degree room temp, transferred to secondary, in there a total of 7 days as well. bottled 16 days ago, cracked one open and wow does it taste fruity! any thoughts would be appreciated. thanks.

Glynn 09-11-2012 11:58 PM

the fermentation temp of was most likely to high and it produced some off flavors, I would bring the temp down to at least 65 next time. The easiest thing to do i place the fermenter in a tub of cold water and add frozen water bottles to help maintain the lower temp. then when fermentation is almost done let it rise to 70 to finish out

woody34 09-12-2012 12:00 AM

Its still a young beer. Give it time for the flavors to blend. I believe a slight citrus flavor in the finished product is expected for this beer...so a stronger citrus flavor would make sense in the unfinished beer. Someone with more experience can discuss possible off-flavors from your high fermentation temp.

Yooper 09-12-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Glynn (Post 4405576)
the fermentation temp of was most likely to high and it produced some off flavors, I would bring the temp down to at least 65 next time. The easiest thing to do i place the fermenter in a tub of cold water and add frozen water bottles to help maintain the lower temp. then when fermentation is almost done let it rise to 70 to finish out

Yes, that's the most likely cause. If the fermentation temperature was 75, that would make a pretty fruity ale. If the room temperature was 75, the beer temperature was probably higher (maybe 80-85!), and that would make a very fruity tasting beer.

It's also possible that you used some "fruity" hops, as that is very common in IPAs. So some of the fruit flavor may be coming from the hops as well.

Slainte-brew 09-12-2012 12:02 AM

I would agree that you are getting esters from high ferm temp, mixed with the citrus of hops. Is it sweet also? It might not have been done fermenting and there are still sugars left over.

4traindays 09-12-2012 02:20 AM

Thanks for the replies, the room temp was one thing that I thought could be the culprit. It isn't sweet at all, just fruity, more like apricot. I used 1 oz chinook, 1 0z cascade, and 1 oz Amarillo throughout the boil. Will this fruitiness subside over time in the bottle? It isn't that bad tasting if it wasn't supposed to be an ipa, one would think it's an apricot pale!

billl 09-12-2012 02:52 AM

Amarillo definitely has a fruity side. It does fade over time, but an IPA is supposed to have hop flavor and aroma.

4traindays 09-12-2012 03:15 AM

Will this beer get better in the bottle? Or are the fruit flavors something that will be a constant? Is it best to condition bottles at room temp or in the fridge? Some many questions, I know! Thanks for your advice.

bobbrews 09-12-2012 05:43 PM

If you're using the primary only, I prefer 3-4 weeks total in the carboy. If you're using a secondary, you can do 1-2 weeks in the primary and 2 weeks in the secondary. The temp. is crucial in the first 5-7 days. You want it to be in the 60s for this style.

For an American IPA, I like the 62-68 F fermentation range... especially with the typical California Ale yeast. If your IPA already fermented at 75-80 F, then it will not get better. When this yeast is fermented at high temps, you get more fruit and less citrus. Some of that fruitiness will be from Amarillo, but most will be from fermenting high. So most likely, what you did is already done. The only betterment for an IPA would only be from a proper conditioning/carb time and temp which won't take away from the fruitiness per se. I would shoot for 17 days at 72-74 F before you put the bottles in the fridge.

unionrdr 09-12-2012 06:12 PM

Another thing that helps is leaving the beer in primary 3-4 weeks. Give the beer time to settle out clear or slightly misty. During this same time,it's getting rid of off flavors,which you have. So don't be in a big hurry to getit ready. Or taking the times in those instruction sheets to heart. They are wrong & only meant to sell more kits. You can't push beer,it works it's magic in it's own good time. Not ours.


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