Ss Brewing Technologies Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > all grain question
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-16-2009, 12:30 AM   #1
android
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,117
Liked 38 Times on 31 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default all grain question

i'm trying to process all this info on all grain brewing and of course have some questions.

i'll be using a 7.5 gallon turkey fryer and have read all about the boil over potential if i'm doing a full boil.

1) does a full boil for a 5 gallon batch always start with 6 gallons or is it often more?

2) relating to that, i know the mashing water amount (1.25 gal/lb of grain) but how do you determine how much to sparge with? do you just fill out the remainder of the starting boil volume? or is there any 'topping up' to speak of with all grain (i.e. you mash & sparge with a given amount and make up 6 gallons with tap water before starting the boil?

hopefully these questions makes sense. thanks in advance for your help.

__________________
primary: APA

ebay temp controller | thermostat temp controller
android is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 12:56 AM   #2
Bobby_M
Vendor and Brewer
HBT_SPONSOR.png
Vendor Ads 
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
 
Bobby_M's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Whitehouse Station, NJ
Posts: 22,009
Liked 972 Times on 650 Posts
Likes Given: 28

Default

1. It depends on your boil off rate, boil length, and trub leftovers but 6.5 gallons isn't too uncommon. I'd recommend putting 5.5 gallons in the 7.5 and another gallon in a smaller pot.

2. Measure your first runnings (if batch sparging). Subtract that amount from 6.5 and that's how much sparge you add.

__________________
BrewHardware.com
Sightglass, Refractometer, Ball Valve, Weldless bulkhead, Thermometer, Decals, Stainless Steel Fittings, Compression Fittings, Camlock Quick Disconnects, Scale, RIMS tube, Plate Chiller, Chugger Pump, Super Clear Silicone Tubing, and more!

New Stuff?
Bobby_M is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 01:24 AM   #3
android
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,117
Liked 38 Times on 31 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

wonderful, thanks a bunch.

__________________
primary: APA

ebay temp controller | thermostat temp controller
android is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 02:47 AM   #4
android
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,117
Liked 38 Times on 31 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

i'm going to try my first AG recipe next weekend. i'm gonna try a hefe for the wife. how does the following sound:

5# wheat malt
5# pils malt

1 oz. hellertau for 60 min

WLP300 with a starter

should i add any carapils for head retention or up the grain amount overall to make up for efficiency loss due to it being my first AG?

thanks!

__________________
primary: APA

ebay temp controller | thermostat temp controller
android is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 01:12 PM   #5
Deuce
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Providence Village, Texas
Posts: 1,543
Liked 18 Times on 17 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Throw in a little Irish Moss the last 5 min of boil. I have became hooked on this, and use it with every brew I do now.

__________________
Diverse Haus Brewery
Deuce is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 01:27 PM   #6
Buford
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Buford's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,415
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts

Default

My full boils for 5 gallons start near 8 gallons, but I do 90 minute boils and have to account for loss in the lines running to and from the pump and chiller, so I end up with more than 5 gallons before it hits the fermenter. It depends on your system. I used to use an 8 gallon pot before I reinvented my setup; now I use a 10 gallon one.

__________________
Flying Dutchman Unlimited Ale Works
Buy my crap!


FERMENTING: ---
KEGGED/IN STORAGE: ---
KEGGED/ON TAP: ---

DIY STUFF: Sanyo 4912 kegerator conversion
Buford is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 01:54 PM   #7
vfinch
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Victoria BC, Canada
Posts: 277
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

I use a 7.5Gal turkey fryer setup and start with a 6.3gal boil. The only point I have to worry about boil over is at the start of the boil for the first break. As I approach boiling I keep my long brewing spoon and a squirt bottle of cold water ready. When it starts to boil over I stir in a zigzag pattern and give'r the squirt bottle I then turn the heat down a bit and it usually will settle down within a couple of minutes into a nice rolling boil.

__________________
In Primary: English Brown Sept 2011
In Secondary: Summer Smash 2011
Keg: Noble Cascadia Amber Ale
Next Up: Something...
vfinch is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 03:19 PM   #8
android
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ames, Iowa
Posts: 3,117
Liked 38 Times on 31 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

cool, i might try the 6.3 gallon or i might go up to 6.5 and just put a gallon in a separate pot inside or something.

is irish moss advisable in a hefe? i've got some so could use it but i thought you didn't want to coagulate those proteins in a hefe??

any thoughts on adding some rice hulls to avoid a stuck sparge? i'll be using a homemade MLT with a copper manifold in the bottom, i don't know if those are more or less prone to sticking...

__________________
primary: APA

ebay temp controller | thermostat temp controller
android is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 03:39 PM   #9
Lil' Sparky
Cowboys EAC
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Lil' Sparky's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Honolulu, HI
Posts: 4,013
Liked 50 Times on 33 Posts

Default

I wouldn't use irish moss in a hefe. Rice hulls are always good with wheat.

And you can boil 6.5 gals in a 7.5 gal turkey fryer pot if you're REALLY careful. Have a little spray bottle on hand, and go gentle on the heat when you start seeing hot break.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by duffman2 View Post
I dub this beer the Double Slutty Triple Nutty Bodacious Booty Brunette!
Lil' Sparky is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-16-2009, 03:51 PM   #10
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,176
Liked 581 Times on 342 Posts
Likes Given: 213

Default

Regarding your recipe, does the wife like banana/clove flavored beer?

__________________

*******
Check Out My Rolling Kegerator

BierMuncher Tried & Trues:
Tits-Up IIPA (3-Time Medalist), Black Pearl Porter, Kona Pale Ale, Outer Limits IPA, Centennial Blonde (4.0%), Nierra Sevada (SNPA), SWMBO Slayer Belgian Blonde,

BierMuncher is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
All-Grain Question oswegan All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 12 09-25-2009 10:45 PM
first all grain recipe question (how much grain) wester101 All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 10 07-27-2009 11:15 PM
First all-grain question.. comj49 All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 7 12-19-2008 11:21 PM
2nd All grain OG question Diablotastic All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 11 09-30-2008 05:22 PM
Question about steeping grain in extract/grain brew grez Extract Brewing 16 09-18-2006 03:37 PM