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Old 10-08-2012, 06:30 PM   #1
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I brewed a Sam Adams Winter Lager Clone yesterday. When I took my OG reading I realized I made a mistake somewhere as my OG was 1.022 and my target OG was 1.069.

After going through my recipe again I realized that I failed to buy all the grain I needed. The recipe was for extract brewing with notes at the bottom for all grain brewing. I knew the notes where there and replaced the wheat malt syrup with 3.5 pounds of pale malt, but I failed to increase my munich malt and wheat malt from 1.5lbs to 4lbs each.

My yeast is pitched and everything is already in my primary for 18 hours now. I have no airlock activity and no krausen.

I plan on letting it go and seeing what happens (I figure I'll just have very low ABV that, hopefully, tastes good)), but should I be concerned that there aren't enough sugars to get fermentation going? Any other concerns?

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Old 10-08-2012, 06:40 PM   #2
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I knew the notes where there and replaced the wheat malt syrup with 3.5 pounds of pale malt, but I failed to increase my crystal malt and wheat malt from 1.5lbs to 4lbs each.
You probably just had a typo - but that recipe says "Replace the wheat malt syrup with 3.5 pounds of pale malt. Increase the Munich malt to 4 pounds and the wheat malt to 4 pounds."

Big difference between crystal 60L malt and munich.

One thing that sticks out in my mind is that the bittering will be way off - the amount of IBUs were there for the OG of 1.069. I think if it was me I'd try to add some DME to get the OG up to where it should be, boiled in the least amount of water possible.
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I've never made a beer with an OG that low, but i'm sure as long as there are sugars present the yeast will go at them. However, an OG that low is probably going to lead to a very watery tasting beer. I have 2 suggestions. (1) Go get the malt extract that was required for the extract recipe (or maybe a little bit more) and mix it with as little water as possible. Bring it to a boil, cool it, then add it to the fermentor. (2) Let this batch ferment out as usual. Brew another batch of beer with the same recipe except add enough base malt to bring it to about 1.116 OG. Let that one ferment out, then blend the two of them together.

Just my 2 cents. Not really sure if either of those would work because I've never really tried anything like that.

Also, when you said "but I failed to increase my crystal malt and wheat malt from 1.5lbs to 4lbs each.", I'm guessing you meant munich malt and wheat malt right? 4 lbs of crystal would probably be way too much for any beer.

Anyway, good luck!

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Old 10-08-2012, 07:07 PM   #4
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It was a typo, thanks for pointing it out.

I like the idea of blending another batch with it, but it will be another 4-6 weeks before I have time to brew again, so I think I'll just buy the DME.

I should use the full 6.6lbs the recipe called for?

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I should use the full 6.6lbs the recipe called for?
That's what I would do.
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Definitely use the full amount. I'd draw off a gallon or so of the wort and re-heat (~160F) it enough to dissolve the DME, cool, and pour back in.

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Definitely use the full amount. I'd draw off a gallon or so of the wort and re-heat (~160F) it enough to dissolve the DME, cool, and pour back in.
+1. This way you won't dilute the beer with any extra water, and if you heat it to ~160F it will pasteurize the DME.
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Definitely use the full amount. I'd draw off a gallon or so of the wort and re-heat (~160F) it enough to dissolve the DME, cool, and pour back in.
+1 really good idea.
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Definitely use the full amount. I'd draw off a gallon or so of the wort and re-heat (~160F) it enough to dissolve the DME, cool, and pour back in.
Picked up the DME today and plan on doing this. Wanted to do it yesterday, but made it to my LHBS 5 minutes after closing time.

Thanks for all the advice, guys!
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Definitely use the full amount. I'd draw off a gallon or so of the wort and re-heat (~160F) it enough to dissolve the DME, cool, and pour back in.
I just posted a question about adding DME to the fermenter today.
This seems like a great answer - almost too easy.
Is 160 degrees enough to sterilize the DME without killing the yeast cells in the drawn off wort?
Is a light DME the best sugar to use?
Any clue on how to figure the alcohol / SG jump for DME added to a 5 gallon batch.
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