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Old 01-03-2013, 12:29 PM   #1
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What is the general difference in say, 5 gallon batch for all grain when LME and DME kits are $35-$50?

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Old 01-03-2013, 12:38 PM   #2
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I pay between 17-40, really it comes down to hops and higher priced base malts like marris otter, golden promise... Etc

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Old 01-03-2013, 12:43 PM   #3
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The major difference is price. I am assuming that by kits you mean ones containing extract either dry or liquid. If that is the case extract is more expensive than grain. I typically brew 10 gallons however for five gallon batches ( when I dont buy my two row in 50lb bulk) I can expect to pay around 20-25 dollars per batch. It is less if I use bulk grains and mill them myself.
The only other difference is length of brew time. It takes longer to do an all grain batch because of the mash.
If you asked this question because you are considering stepping up to an all grain system I highly encourage it. It gives you much more control over your final product and in my opinion much more satisfaction. Hope this answered your question.
Good luck on future brews.
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:50 PM   #4
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Pale 2-row starts at around $2/lb and goes down when you buy in bulk. I but 10lbs at a time because I'm a partial mash brewer. It runs about $1.60/lb. A lot of all grain brewers buy in weights of 50lbs or greater. At 50lbs, you may pay $0.90/lb.

A 7lb lme recipe would produce a 1.050 OG beer. To make the same recipe in All-grain, you may use 12lbs of pale malt, depending on your mash efficiency.

The bulk rate for 18lbs of NB LME is ~$2.25/lb. This recipe would use 6lbs LME and .75 lbs DME at ~$4.00/lb. The total cost would be $15.75 for the extract.

Using 12 lbs of 2-row bought in bulk, you would pay about $10.80. That's about a 30% discount.

There are some brewers on this forum who boast batches under $10. They can achieve this rate with larger bulk buys, growing hops and washing yeast.

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Old 01-03-2013, 01:28 PM   #5
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My average cost for AG brewing is about $26 a brew day. Things drive up cost are more hops, not making a starter and pitching two vials of yeast, and doing doubles or imperials and thus buying more grain. My most expensive batch was about $65 for a single 5 gallon batch.

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Old 01-03-2013, 01:33 PM   #6
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I'm now doing All Grain 10-11 gallon batches every time.

I harvest my yeast and reuse it up to 5 times with a starter.

I buy my base grain in bulk for about $.80/lb.

I can brew 11 gallons of my session beers like a light Pale Ale for $26 for 11 gallons which is only about $12 for 5 gallons!

Yes, All Grain can save a lot of cost and honestly I never made a "great" beer until I went all grain.

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I make 10 gallon AG batches and most of mine cost less than $40. When I decided to make the switch I started with BIAB (Brew In A Bag) and could make a 5 gallon batch for $20.

I buy all my grain in bulk for 0.90-$1, I bought hops in bulk and I wash my Yeast when ever possible, doing that has saved a lot of money.

If you are looking to make the switch it's well worth it, there are some added expenses in making the switch but looking for used equipment on CL and here can help make it a little cheaper.

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Does anyone have any good links that describe the differences and processes between extract, partial, biab, and ag. Preferably a good side by side comparison

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I've found for 5 gallon batches, I'm probably averaging about $10 cheaper per batch than when I was buying extract kits. It varies a few bucks up or down depending on what grains I already have on hand and how many ounces of hops I have to buy. I plan on buing my base grain in bulk soon as well, so that will probably knock off another $4 or $5/batch as well.

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My partial mash beers cost about $25 for a 5 gallon batch. I too save about $10 from what my average extract batch costs. Many of those were 6 gallons though. But the lower cost makes it a bit easier to afford for me.
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