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Old 01-04-2014, 11:28 AM   #21
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I've got a can in the wardrobe right now, I'm waiting for my Coppers English Ale kit to finish up then i had planned to get the Newkie Brown kit on after. Probably will brew it to around 20 litres and use a bag of Brew Kit Enhancer.

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Old 01-04-2014, 02:50 PM   #22
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Were I you I'd reduce the sugar to maybe 1/3 and buy another bag of DME. A little thinning is OK, but too much and it'll be strange.

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Old 01-05-2014, 07:05 AM   #23
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When you say a 1/3 do you mean a 1/3 of what it tells you to add on the tin?

E.G:
Add the Newkie Brown malt/hop syrup stuff
500g of DME
1/3 of 500G of breaking sugar (166g)

Did that make sense?

I'm not precious about adding dextrose or anything. I was just trying to get my head around why this bloke on the video put in 700g as well as DME.

It was to my understanding before that, and now, that you could just substitute sugar for DME.

Out of interest, do sugars/DME need boiling before adding to the fermenting bucket or can they just go straight in?

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Old 01-05-2014, 02:20 PM   #24
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What I meant by 1/3 is indeed to only use a third of the sugar, but to also add more DME (two of those 500g packages).

DME/LME is so much better than using sugar. A little bit of sugar can be good, but a lot just REALLY thins the beer out.

I'd add the can go hopped malt, (2) 500g bags of DME, and 166g of sugar.

He likely used so much sugar because it's much cheaper and around the house.

You can substitute with sugar, but it's not a good idea to use too much. Many Belgian beers use sugar, and some of them quite a bit it seems. The type of sugar can also make a bit of difference too.

DME or sugar should be fine to dump in without boiling it. But it certainly doesn't hurt, and I'd think it would make it easier for the yeast to get at it if it were diluted a little bit in water.

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So what would happen if I just used 1 x bag of DME with the beer kit?

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It'll add a little more alcohol. If it began as a 4% beer it might add .3 to .5% more alcohol. That would be my guess. One all by itself in 5 gals isn't a whole lot.

You could also reduce the volume a little. Less water means more alcohol too.

Don't worry about adding some sugar. Some sugar is just fine. He added quite a bit though. And maybe it's not as bad as I think it would be.

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So, out if interest, if put the can in and 2 bags of DME, what would happen?

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You'd come to about 4.7-5% ABV I'd guess. You could still add some sugar to ensure it gets to 5 or more.

Adding DME or sugar will lower the IBU's as well. It won't be a whole lot, but it will lower it.

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What are IBU's?

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International Bittering Units. It's what the hops produced, and they are there to even out the sweetness of the malts.

If you brewed beer without any hops (or anything else bitter) it would be rather sweet.

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