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Old 01-03-2014, 10:53 AM   #1
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Hi there,

I'm about to brew my first home brew and had a quick question before I launch in...

I saw a guy on YouTube make a Wilkos Sweet Newkie Brown kit (which is what I'll be making) using 500g of Dark DME and 700g of brewing sugar. However, the Muttons DME bag and Wilkos kit says that you just replace the brewing sugar for DME.

On the video, the pint turned out really well. I'm interested: what will happen if I add DME and brewing sugar (in general?).

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Old 01-03-2014, 03:31 PM   #2
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That's an awful lot of sugar! Using even 25% sugar is quite a bit. Maybe 10%?

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I think using sugar instead of DME will cause the beer to come out pretty thin and watery. The added sugar just means there are more readily fermentable sugar in the wort which will cause the ABV to increase, but without extra flavor that you might get from the DME. I would just use the DME and not sugar.

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Yes, I thought it seemed like a lot of sugar. He did say he wanted to put extra sugar in to make it higher in alcohol content.

I have some DME which I intended to use. A neighbour of mine used just sugar and his beer tasted thin.

Hoping the DME will give it more body.

I'll see if I can find a link to the video in question.

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http://youtu.be/cM8YhlwtF8g

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I would rather use more extract than just adding table sugar. I don't know enough about raw or refined sugars other than priming to say much more about it.

However, about that video..A few things I would personally do differently: Since this is an all extract kit with actual hops, I would add the DME at the beginning of the boil, and throw in the hop bags doing timed hop additions, and add the LME at the end of the boil. You might have a short boil but I think that would still produce a greater result than doing a hop tea.

Also..my god man!! Back the camera off! Not everything needs to be 1 inch away lol.

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Definitely see your doctor if you have cloopms!

Way too much sugar IMO still.

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He spruced it up to become 1.040? What would it have been otherwise?

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This is a starter kit he ha spruced up. The can of malt extract also has the hops extracted within it. He is adding finishing hop for additional flavour.

Why would you add the DME first, just out of interest?

He ended up with and ABV of 4.3%. The can says it should be 4%. I think he says he was aiming for 5%.

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It's a relatively short boil so beginning would be about 10, 20 minutes max? and I have been doing some reading and and have found studies that show the pH of the water/wort affects the isomerization of alpha acids.

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