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Old 05-09-2011, 09:08 PM   #1
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I'm reading a lot of different opinions on when and how long to steep the orange peel and coriander. I'm making a Belgian Witbier tonight. The coriander came crushed and it looks like cinnamon. The guy from Midwest said to throw it right into the wort but I've read that leaving coriander and orange peel in the primary fermenter can result in overwhelming flavors. My lhbs is closed today so if I decide to steep them in a muslin bag, I can't buy any today. I only have one muslin bag which will be used for the grains and hops. Can I add the orange peel and coriander to the same bag the hops are in, or am I better off just throwing them into the boil without a bag? Any advice on what to do would be great.

The recipe came with 1 oz bitter orange peel and 1 oz crushed coriander. Also not sure how much to use of each. I've read 1 oz of coriander for a 5 gallon batch can be too much.

Sorry for asking this as I've seen it discussed in a few older threads, but I am brewing tonight and just want to ensure I don't screw anything up. It's only my second batch. Thank you in advance!

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Old 05-09-2011, 09:21 PM   #2
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I crush fresh coriander and add both directly to the boil. Between 5 and 10 minutes left in the boil for the coriander and the last minute or two for the bitter orange peel. I've used 1 oz of coriander and it wasn't overloaded with flavor. If it's a kit you purchased, roll with it and RDWHAHB!

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Old 05-09-2011, 09:24 PM   #3
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I have a really good Belgian Wheat Recipe so I've done this ton's.

For a 5 gallon batch...

1.25 tsp corriander seeds at 10 mins left in the boil
.33 oz sweet orange peel at 5 mins left in the boil

Assuming you don't dump the whole boil into the ferementer you will be leaving the seeds and orange peel behind when you transer out of the BK.

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Old 05-09-2011, 09:29 PM   #4
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Ok, so I'll add them both directly to the boil and auto-siphon the wort into my primary, hopefully leaving behind any residue (orange peel, coriander). Thanks for the help! I love this forum!

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I guess I'm late to the party, but I thought I'd put my two cents in since the only beer I've made so far (which is still fermenting) was a Blue Moon Clone with these ingredients. My lhbs told us to use "no more than 3/4 ounce" of each ingredient into the boil. I used 1/2 ounce of each figuring that way I'd be able to make another batch with the other 1/2 ounce, rather than having a 1/4 ounce left with no use. (They were 1 ounce bags).

I put mine into a little muslin bag the lhbs gave us. I think he said to let it boil for 10 or 15 minutes, but I ended up leaving it in for more like 25 minutes. Not sure if that ruined the flavor.

I will say when I tasted a hydrometer sample at about 6 days in, I couldn't detect any of the orange or coriander flavor. Not sure if it's more pronounced after maturation...

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I'm not a fan of coriander myself so don't ever use it but I typically boil 1 oz. sweet orange peel in a muslin bag for the last 30 mins in my Belgian wheats. It doesn't impart a noticeable orange flavor for the beers I make. It can make for a forward citrusy note if that makes sense but it's not overpowering or noticeably "orange flavored." I think only .5 oz more peel would make the orange much more noticeable if that is what you're going for.

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Just finished brewing. Things went smoothly except for the transferring wort part. As I mentioned, I didn't have additional muslin bags for the powdered coriander and orange peel. After cooling my wort, I tried to create a whirlpool using my stirring spoon to no avail. Not sure why this didn't work. I looked for a while but I couldn't find how long to stir so I did it for a minute. Anyways, this didn't work so I just auto-siphoned and left the last inch or so in the brew pot. After I finished, I did see a bunch of the orange peel at the bottom of the pot so I did avoid to suck a lot up. Hopefully I didn't get much, if any, into my primary fermenter.

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I've made this beer like 8 or 10 times, I've never worried about getting pieces of orange into the fermenter and my beers have come out phenomenal....so...If I were you...I certainly wouldnt worry.

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Could one use orange zest instead of peel? What difference would that make if any?

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You could, however most recipes here (that I've seen are based upon dried orange peel ) the reason thats significant is the moisture content. 3/4 tsp of zest vs 3/4 tsp dried peel are two totally different things.

In other words, yes you could, however I think you would need to do some experimenting to get the amounts right.

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