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Old 12-11-2012, 05:01 PM   #1
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Default 90 minute "boil" recommended??

I have the Northern Brewer extract kit for their Red Ale. The instructions note that "Lakefront recommends a 90-minute boil for this recipe, making the first hop addition with 60 minutes remaining" The instructoins then go on to talk about steeping the grains and then bring the water to a boil and add the 1st addition of hops at hte 60min mark.

Queston: Are they including the steep time in the 90 minutes? OR are they saying i should steep, then bring to a boil for 30 min before adding the first hops at which point i'd have 60 min left?? 90min actually boiling?

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http://www.northernbrewer.com/docume..._Lakefront.pdf

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Old 12-11-2012, 05:09 PM   #2
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I think it wants you to boil for 90 minutes, but I'm not sure what the point is if the first hops go in at 60 minutes. If I was doing it, I'd ignore that direction. I would just steep, take the grains out, get it to boiling, add my hops and a bit of the extract, then add the remaining extract with a couple minutes left in the boil.

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Old 12-11-2012, 05:09 PM   #3
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Steeping for 90 minutes means to soak the grains for conversion. Then once that is done the boil is a standard 60 min.

Edit. Wait. Seems like that part must be a typo unless they want you to caramelize sugars or something. Odd

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Old 12-11-2012, 05:15 PM   #4
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From the instructions you linked to (look under middle column, 'Procedure'):

ON BREWING DAY

2. Collect and heat 2.5 gallons of water.

3. For mail-order customers grains for extract kits come
crushed by default, but if you requested uncrushed
grains, crush them now. Pour crushed grain into
supplied mesh bag and tie the open end in a kno t. Steep
for 20 minutes or until water reaches 170°F. Remove
bag and discard.

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Old 12-11-2012, 05:18 PM   #5
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I'm guessing it's a matter of the basic instructions not being well edited with the Lakefront-specific instructions. If it were me, I'd steep, add a small amount of extract, then boil for 30 minutes. AT 30 mins, I'd add the first hop addition (60 min) and continue the boil for the next 60 minutes.

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It looks like the 90-minute boil is just a recommendation. You don't have to do it if you don't want to. It looks like you'll have a tasty brew either way.

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This is a common steeping method...the steep time has nothing to do with the boil time. Once you reach a boil, start your timer. At 30 minutes in, start adding hops per schedule.

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Beestin, if you're new at this, I would recommend following the instructions with regard to when hops should be added.

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A lot of brewers prefer a 90 minute boil depending on the beer style (Jamil for example) because it caramelizes a bit more and brings out more melanoidins in the wort to give it a more malty flavor. It's not crucial but it might be nice in a red ale.

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I missed the part that the OP referred to as well. Here is the text of it from the leftmost column

NOTES:
Lakefront recommends a 90-minute boil for this recipe,
making the first hop addition with 60 minutes remaining.

I still think it is caramelization. Reds tend to be more on the sweeter/maliter side.

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