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Old 07-23-2010, 07:51 PM   #1
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Default 5 gal stockpot in beginners kit?

We've all seen the kits at midwest brewing supplies.

I'm assuming that the ingredients they give you there are for a batch that is equal to the 30 bottles they say you'll need... 2.8 gallons.

Yet all the recipe kits are saying they are for 5 gal batches. 54 bottles...

So.....

I need to scrap the 5 gal stainless steel pot in the kit and get a 7 gal dont I?

And 30 more bottles? (60 total)

Anything else that I'll need right away?

(here is the kit I am eyeballing - http://www.midwestsupplies.com/every...ent-kit-2.html )

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Old 07-23-2010, 08:35 PM   #2
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The kit comes with 2 cases of bottles. Case = 48 bottles @ 12 oz. = 4.5 Gallons.

I usually get 2 cases and a sixer out of my '5' gallon batches. So, you'll need to come up with 6 more bottles....(My bottles were all free, I just had to pay for the beer in them!!). As far as the pot goes, for doing extract brews you only need a pot that can boil around 3 gallons minimum. A 'full boil' (5 gallons) is better but not a necessity. A full boil will require a bigger pot, like 7-8 gallons or so. That kit looks fine for starters. Eventually you'll want to grow your brewery with a wort chiller and other items...but for a starter it's fine. You'll find that even if/when you progress to all grain or even kegging, you'll still use the items from the kit. I do love the quote at the bottom:

"Well, almost everything - You'll actually need about 6 more empty beer bottles. We figure if you'd have trouble emptying 6 beer bottles, you should consider a different hobby."

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Old 07-23-2010, 08:42 PM   #3
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so when I buy kits that say they are for 5 gallons, a 5 gallon pot is enough? That doesnt sound right...

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If doing extract batches you only boil about 3 gallons of wort then top off to make 5 gallons(has something to do with getting the most out of your hops I believe).
If doing a full boil then you need more than a 5 gallon pot due to the full "roiling" boil that is needed to help prevent boil overs.
If doing all-grain then you will end up with about 6 or 7 gallons of wort from the sparge that will boil down to about 5 or 5.5 gallons.
Just my humble opinion though.

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If you're only going to do a partial boil then a five gallon pot works fine.

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ahhhh ha! You arent boiling all the water at once for extract batches...

That's what I was missing.

So if the goal is grain. A 9 gal kettle would serve me well. For extracts, the 5 gal will do.

Got it!

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Well, you can boil all the water for an extract batch if you have the ability. I often do, but, when I don't want to haul out the propane burner and big kettle I revert back to my five gallon kettle on the stove top and it still makes pretty good beer.

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great info guys, thanks!

I just read about Turkey Fryers....

30 quart with burner for $59? http://www.turkey-fryers-online.com/...rkey_fryer.htm

Now this looks like a great solution!!!!!

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Yep, turkey fryers are a popular alternative for a lot of brewers.

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great info guys, thanks!

I just read about Turkey Fryers....

30 quart with burner for $59? http://www.turkey-fryers-online.com/...rkey_fryer.htm

Now this looks like a great solution!!!!!
+1 on this.
I bought a 13 gallon aluminum(yes ALUMINUM) converted it with fittings from bargainfittings(ball valve and sight glass) all for about $65, propane burner $50 and bring about 7.5 gallons to a boil in ~20 minutes.
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