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oach 01-11-2010 12:10 PM

3rd Time Brewing, No Yeast Action
 
Hey All,

It has been almost 48 hours with no action going on in the fermenter of my third beer. I know this might be a little early to worry, but I use Nottingham dry yeast since it neutral (I will start exploring the complexities of yeast soon) and a quick starter and fermenter.

There are obviously many reasons why this could be but my brew day went the same as any other and I used the same yeast I used in the past. The only difference was boiling the cup of water before I put the yeast in (yes, I let it cool to 90 degrees before adding the yeast) per John Palmer's book in the yeast section on dry yeast. I usually just place the yeast in hot water from the tap, no boiling.

Usually the yeast "bubbles" up when placed in water before pitching, this time it just sank to the bottom and has done the same in the carboy.

Is this set of yeast screwed and should I pick up another packet of yeast tonight?

Thank you for your time and help.

lunchbox 01-11-2010 12:26 PM

What was the OG and what is it now? Also, what temperature is it at?

oach 01-11-2010 03:43 PM

1.058 OG and temp is 66 degrees.

Netflyer 01-11-2010 03:58 PM

If you are worried pitch another packet of notty... If it was 90 and you put it in 66F you may have shocked the little buggers... I'd pitch another pack, 48 hours is kinda long for nodda...

Revvy 01-11-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netflyer (Post 1801170)
.... 48 hours is kinda long for nodda...

No it's not.......

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/ferm...e-signs-43635/

and by "visible signs, we do NOT mean airlock bubbling.

So, oach by "no action" what exactly are you referring to?

Netflyer 01-11-2010 04:18 PM

Good Pt. it could be the 'not to be trusted' airlock... I've never had yeast take more than 12 hours to get going but these guys are WAY more experienced than me so I gladly yield!

aubrey 01-11-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netflyer (Post 1801231)
Good Pt. it could be the 'not to be trusted' airlock... I've never had yeast take more than 12 hours to get going but these guys are WAY more experienced than me so I gladly yield!

I dunno, he said he proofed it and it didn't bloom.

Have you checked your thermometer for accuracy? Maybe you killed it with the boiled/cooled water.

Netflyer 01-11-2010 04:50 PM

That's kinda why I just tossed out the possibility of a re-pitch. Nottingham is fairly inexpensive - I guess wait another day or so and if nothing repitch... but Revvy's point is quite valid, how does he know it's not fermenting. The answer there for me would be to check the temperature first, has it risen due to any possible heat of fermentation. Second I suppose I would (dread) open the fermenter and look for signs of fermentation, maybe even take a gravity reading if I already had the sucker open. Obviously the scary part is talking over 2 day old sweet wort and exposing it to the open room.

oach 01-11-2010 06:29 PM

I actually can't see anything happening like I usually do, which includes seeing the yeast moving in the wort. To the best I can see it is all part of the trub on the bottom.

I didn't put the yeast into the carboy until the water was 72 degrees in terms of the water that the yeast was in. At the time the water in the carboy was 75.

Before I left for work this morning I did shake the crap out of the carboy hoping to get the yeast in suspension and hungry. ;)

Any other ideas? I am going to pick up a pack of yeast for sure on the way home tonight.

robertvrabel 01-11-2010 06:45 PM

Did you rock your carboy back and forth BEFORE adding yeast to your wort? When you put your wort into your carboy and its cooled down and your all finished... just rock your carboy back and forth for a few minutes to get oxygen back into your wort. Then add your yeast to it.

I'm not pro... but i've done 2 batches so far and I've seen active signs of fermentation within a couple of hours, definitely after 24 hours I see a lot. Maybe all brews are different... but I'm just giving you my experience on the two I've done so far!


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