Ya I understand the wait longer deal, of course I do not plan on going right away, I am an entrepreneur at heart and am always looking for ideas like this. Without risk takers in this world, there would be very few businesses. I am leaning for towards it being an "extract twang" also. I wish I could explain it more for you guys but it is hard. It is not unpleasant or even very noticeable. Maybe I am just being to critical. It was a Brewer's best American Light extract kit that I got from Bell's. The instructions (which I did not follow to the T, I took all the info on here and used my best judgement) said that it should be a straw color and I would say it is a bit darker than straw but more of a light amber. I followed the instructions and put the LME in at the beginning of the boil and then and the DME like the last 20 minutes or so.