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Old 12-10-2010, 03:29 PM   #11
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After a closer look, this doesn't look like an APA at all. Oats/Wheat/Honey are all classic English Bitter ingredients along with the ENGLISH ale. Evaluating this as an ESB:

65% Base malt seems quite low to me also. You are going crazy with specialty grains, which may be okay, but since this is you're first recipe, you might want to tone it down. I typically keep base grains at least 85%.

9% is simple sugars is probably okay, just be sure it adds to the character you want.

DON'T underestimate the sweetness of honey malt. Even a small amount will add a lot of residual sweetness (in my experience anyways).

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What is your projected OG?

Tell us more about the type of beer you are trying to build. Would prob be easier if you give us characteristics you are looking for

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Old 12-10-2010, 03:35 PM   #12
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We are shooting for a simple pale ale, but I wanted a little more flavor character then just the 2-row malt, hence the crystal and honey malts. Would you advise scratching one of the two, or both? I'm open for opinions, specialty grains and malt probably shouldn't be in an APA, but I wanted to give it our own little twist. I'm thinking of cutting the crystal out and possibly only going for .5 lb of honey malt, if any at all. My thoughts with this are that the honey malt might add a little more "body" to the beer.

With the flaked oats and wheat, again, as this is my first all grain batch and I don't have the equipment, I'm just going off of what my friend does and that is what he uses and I'm taking his word for it.

Hops are going to be all cascade for the boil and dry hop with some Saaz if I can locate some, hopefully the LHBS will have some. Thinking about changing the hop schedule to:

2.5 oz at 60 min
2 oz at 15
1.5 oz at 5
1 oz at flameout
then dry hoping 2 oz of Saaz

Input?
And thanks again!

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Old 12-10-2010, 04:51 PM   #13
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If you are going for an American PA, you can start by using an American Ale yeast, Safale US-05. That will finish out a bit more dry, and allow the hops to come out a bit more.

You don't have to scratch either the crystal or the honey malt. In fact, if it was me, I would probably use more crystal and less honey. I did an English Bitter with just a bit of honey and it was a little too sweet for me. Again thats just me, and I'm def not an expert.

Flaked oats does not sound bad at all in an APA.

I would also consider making a small batch to start. Each recipe you create will be slightly better. This also gives you the option to make small changes and brew it again sooner.

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Old 12-10-2010, 05:18 PM   #14
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Alright, what about jumping the Crystal to 2 or 2.5 lbs and honey malt down to .25. I'm pretty set on the hop schedule and I think it would work nice, but I will change the yeast as well to one suggested.

Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.

Just wish I had beer smith with me for a run down of IBUs and ABV

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Old 12-10-2010, 05:41 PM   #15
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You've put hard work into this recipe. Just brew it, and relax. As soon as you taste it you'll know what improvements you are going to want to make next time.

Just as good as having beersmith:

IBU Calculator (Tinseth is the 2nd): http://www.rooftopbrew.net/ibu.php
ABV Calculator: http://www.rooftopbrew.net/abv.php

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Old 12-10-2010, 06:08 PM   #16
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Is there a way to find out how much water to use when spargeing or mashing these grains? Sorry, new to this stuff

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Old 12-10-2010, 06:11 PM   #17
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Is there a way to find out how much water to use when spargeing or mashing these grains? Sorry, new to this stuff
You can use this calculator:

http://www.brew365.com/mash_sparge_water_calculator.php

You may be a bit off the first few times, but as you get used to your equipment you'll be able to adjust the params and get more accurate
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Old 12-10-2010, 06:41 PM   #18
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Thanks again! You've been a great help, I'll let everyone know how the brew goes and status updates!

Cheers!

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