i took a small sample not too long back, should do another one tonight but it's gonna be another busy day ah well, more time ain't gonna hurt it
and deff check out brew brothers, awesome store! i wish i could make it out there more, but i'm out in clackamas and it's right around a 45 or so minute drive.
last time i went, i got 2 recipes, and i think they were under $17 each, thats with liquid yeast for both, and a touch over 1/2lb of hops. so heres another vote for them!