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Old 03-13-2009, 06:45 PM   #11
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Oh yeah, sign me up. I'd be willing to pay a few bucks to enter. We don't have any competitions around here... apparently your town needs a population >5 to have beer related events.

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Old 03-13-2009, 06:47 PM   #12
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Well, I guess FlyGuy's poll will let us know how many judges we have around here. I think an HBT com would be awesome, with as many members as there are here, it could turn into a huge thing.

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Old 03-13-2009, 07:30 PM   #13
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Sounds great, I'd be interested as well.

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Old 03-14-2009, 01:08 AM   #14
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We talked about this a long time ago, but the logistics were going to be nearly impossible. We decided at the time to start doing the beer swaps, instead (has there been one of those lately?), with the caveat that the recipient would need to provide the sender with a lot of the kinds of feedback you get from a comp.

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Old 03-14-2009, 12:48 PM   #15
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I can understand that issue, but with more members, and possibly more registered judges it might be more plausable? I mean all ya need is a couple well seasoned guys who live close that are willing, they don't even "have" to be registered.

The Swap is cool not trying to take away from it, but everyone loves a good healthy competition!

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Old 03-14-2009, 01:32 PM   #16
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I would certainly participate...Would the judges all have to be members? As long as a few of them were...I think this competition will have to be fairly narrow...I was a big fan of the Brewbubbas Big Beer Brewoff idea. There was a minimum OG of 1.080 for the competititon. That'll get those judges.

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Old 03-14-2009, 02:15 PM   #17
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As long as the person who moderates on site is one of the more seasoned members or moderators I don't see why it would matter if all the judges were HBT people or not. It would be nice it they all where, but I will take what I can get that this point. Now who on here is willing to judge, I think we all know which seasoned members we might all agree on. I will PM some of them to see what we can get going.

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I'd be interested. Would the judges necessarily have to be BJCP certified? I bet it would be fine if we went with a location where there where simply a number of HBT members to judge. Ideally somewhere where there is a BJCP certified judge to oversee the tasting

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I agree that the logistics are waaayyyy too unwieldy to do something like this...I mean we are an international club...and even the Us members are spread out...the thing is that you need the judges at ONE PLACE, rather than spread out...

Here's what I suggested to Aleforge when he pmmed me about being a judge or something...

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I don't know about any certified judges but several of the mashers live in metro detroit...we get together once and awhile....

How do you plan on doing somehting like this, it seems like it would be unwheildy...seems like members would be attempting to (illegally) ship beer across the country....it's not like there's a central base of "vets" where the traditional 2 beers would be sent.....

It might be worth considering doing an HBT comp to happen at the same time as NHC or the GABF, where a bunch of members will be....last year for nhc you had a ton of the vets...like a lot of the mods in one place (they even had a webcast for club night that a lot of us watched....

Hbt had a booth.....If I were setting up something like this, I would find out which "vets" were going to NHC, and if they were having a booth again...and select the judges from THAT pool...find out who would accept the shipments and bring them (preferably a member who lived in whatever city that NHC was happenning in) then have the judging one day at NHC, and even have it happenning on mogulus...

I mean...I'd be honored to judge...but since we're scattered around the world, it seems unwhieldy...I don't wanna be a downer..

It's just that in my experience on here, a lot of these kinda things end up being way to complex to pull off......

But I'll take a look at the thread, and see what you guys have to say about this....

Thanks for thinking of me...if there's a way I'd love to be one of the civilian judges ..THough I doubt I will be able to swing going to NHC or GABF this year..
Another option that occurred to be is that the Michigan Mashers HBT club is the largest club within a club on here. And we get together once in ahile...and I know some of the guys have friends who are BJCP certified....maybe a handful of us under a local judge or two (like Fred Bonjour perhaps) could be the judges....that way the beers could be shipped centrally to one of us in Michigan, and we could have a judging day....

Just a suggestions.....I'd have to post it to the Michigan Mashers Section and see if there's anyone interested besides me....


One of the things to realize is that for comps, beers usually are submitted at least a couple weeks in advance and they are stored cold usually at the judging site for at least a week, to let the beer settle and reach equilibrium after being bounced around in transit...
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I have some thoughts on this but I'm not able to post a lengthy discussion of it right now. Some thisngs to consider and discuss.

1) HBT is a AHA registered club, so you currently can enter any AHA / BJCP comp and list HomeBrewTalk Brewers as your club.

2) Most of the comps I know of either lose money or break even. There are a great deal of ticky tack costs that add up.

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