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06-19-2009, 06:24 PM
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Water modification for extract brews?
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Is it something I should consider? If I'm not doing AG does the water PH really matter? My tap water is actually very good, sourced mostly from glacial runoff.
Is there a good guide to what makes "acceptable brewing water"?
I see a lot of gypsum and burton water salts in some recipes and wonder if I need to alter my water to avoid astringency or the "extract tang" I sometimes hear about. A couple of my brews have been a little astringent but most are great.
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06-19-2009, 06:45 PM
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Yeast pee connoisseur
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A little gypsum (like half a gram per gallon) makes hoppy beers brighter and sharper. The yeast will appreciate the calcium, too.
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06-19-2009, 06:59 PM
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Kwanesum Chinook Illahee
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Aside from the above, with extract you don't need to worry about anything. If your water is good to drink you're good to go.
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06-19-2009, 07:04 PM
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With Extract, I use RO water. So I will steep with my tap water, then top up to 7 gallons with RO water and add the extract.
Extract has all the minerals & salts it needs.
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06-19-2009, 07:08 PM
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RO water?
Really Organic?
Ripe Orange?
Rank Orangutan?
Repulsively Opaque?
Richly Ossified?
Throw the new guy a bone? 
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Fermenting: Carbon's Grizzly Bear, Young's Special London Ale (clone)
Bottled/Conditioning:Siberian Raven Winter Ale, Cherry Tree Porter, Victoria's Dirty Secret
Drinking: Montgomery Scottish Ale, Thames American Bitter, Crow's Beak Old Ale, Bastet Brown, Carbon's Cascade Ale, Red Silo Honey IPA
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06-19-2009, 07:10 PM
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me-no-r-no Nice Guy
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reverse osmosis
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Originally Posted by david_42
only the $500,000 strippers can handle the load.
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<Insert list of brews planned, fermenting, or being consumed here>
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06-19-2009, 08:03 PM
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Thanks!
Is that a filtration process for home or do I have to go/do somewhere/something "special"?
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My beer blog: http://brewdujour.blogspot.com
My website: http://www.carbon111.com
Fermenting: Carbon's Grizzly Bear, Young's Special London Ale (clone)
Bottled/Conditioning:Siberian Raven Winter Ale, Cherry Tree Porter, Victoria's Dirty Secret
Drinking: Montgomery Scottish Ale, Thames American Bitter, Crow's Beak Old Ale, Bastet Brown, Carbon's Cascade Ale, Red Silo Honey IPA
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06-19-2009, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carbon111
Thanks!
Is that a filtration process for home or do I have to go/do somewhere/something "special"?
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Yes.
I get mine at the Glacier Water dispenser at my local grocery store for $0.35 a gallon.
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06-19-2009, 09:34 PM
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Senior Member
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Thanks.
The local grocer has some sort of dispenser for water though I never really took a close look at it - as I said, our water is generally very good. I did some googling and found a RO system for home at about $300.
What exactly is the benefit of RO?
BTW - about to brew your Apfelwein. 
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My beer blog: http://brewdujour.blogspot.com
My website: http://www.carbon111.com
Fermenting: Carbon's Grizzly Bear, Young's Special London Ale (clone)
Bottled/Conditioning:Siberian Raven Winter Ale, Cherry Tree Porter, Victoria's Dirty Secret
Drinking: Montgomery Scottish Ale, Thames American Bitter, Crow's Beak Old Ale, Bastet Brown, Carbon's Cascade Ale, Red Silo Honey IPA
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06-20-2009, 01:48 AM
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Yeast pee connoisseur
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carbon111
What exactly is the benefit of RO?
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It makes water nearly as pure as distilled. It's a waste for you in the PNW with your super-soft water - all you need to do to your tap water is remove the chlorine or chloramine with a carbon filter, campden tabs, or both.
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