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01-06-2013, 07:59 PM
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This is my second try with this stout recipe because the first batch seems to be infected. I noticed it at bottling time. It's a pretty basic dry stout recipe to which I'm adding vanilla.
I fermented 3 weeks in primary, then racked to secondary w/ vanilla beans for 2 weeks.
This time, to avoid contamination, I will soak the beans in vodka before adding. Question: is there any problem with simply adding the beans to the primary and NOT racking to secondary? Any thoughts?
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01-06-2013, 08:11 PM
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no problem at all, just wait for the active part of fermentation to end
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01-06-2013, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Polboy
no problem at all, just wait for the active part of fermentation to end
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Thanks for the response. I know you're *supposed* to check to be sure the gravity stops moving, but my plan is to give it 3 or 4 weeks, then add the vanilla to the primary. I'll bottle after 2 weeks because the last batch tasted pretty strong at that point. Aside from being a bit sour, probably from the infection.
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03-18-2013, 01:25 PM
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Finally opened one of these yesterday. The vanilla was a little strong - I used two skinny beans, split and scraped, then soaked in about a half cup of vodka for a week. Next time, I would maybe use half the vanilla. Here's the rest of the recipe:
2 lbs Light DME
6 oz Roasted Barley
4 oz Crystal 80L
4 oz Chocolate Malt
2 oz Black Patent Malt
.75 oz East Kent Goldings at 60 minutes
WLP004 (Irish Ale)
Fermented at about 63 degrees for 5 weeks
Added vanilla/vodka and fermented 1 more week
Bottled and conditioned for ~3.5 weeks, then put in the fridge for 3 days.
It tastes good and is very smooth. It forms a head, but doesn't last long. I also think it needs a little more roast barley to compete with the vanilla.
I know Briess Golden Light DME has carapils in it, but for better head retention... a little wheat? Flaked barley?
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03-18-2013, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ericbw
Finally opened one of these yesterday. The vanilla was a little strong - I used two skinny beans, split and scraped, then soaked in about a half cup of vodka for a week. Next time, I would maybe use half the vanilla. Here's the rest of the recipe:
2 lbs Light DME
6 oz Roasted Barley
4 oz Crystal 80L
4 oz Chocolate Malt
2 oz Black Patent Malt
.75 oz East Kent Goldings at 60 minutes
WLP004 (Irish Ale)
Fermented at about 63 degrees for 5 weeks
Added vanilla/vodka and fermented 1 more week
Bottled and conditioned for ~3.5 weeks, then put in the fridge for 3 days.
It tastes good and is very smooth. It forms a head, but doesn't last long. I also think it needs a little more roast barley to compete with the vanilla.
I know Briess Golden Light DME has carapils in it, but for better head retention... a little wheat? Flaked barley?
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How big was this batch? I just bottles my imperial stout that was bulk aging on vanilla beans (6) for 2 months, and the vanilla isn't super strong. I think it gets to a point and then stops? My stout also had 2 cups of bourbon that was used to soak the vanilla beans in, so maybe that covered it up a little.
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03-18-2013, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sweed
How big was this batch? I just bottles my imperial stout that was bulk aging on vanilla beans (6) for 2 months, and the vanilla isn't super strong. I think it gets to a point and then stops? My stout also had 2 cups of bourbon that was used to soak the vanilla beans in, so maybe that covered it up a little.
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I should have mentioned that. It's a 2.5 gallon batch. Do you taste the bourbon? I would think you'd have strong vanilla. This was pretty low gravity (1.043), so maybe your imperial version masks the vanilla, too?
Did you split your beans or cut them up?
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03-18-2013, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ericbw
I should have mentioned that. It's a 2.5 gallon batch. Do you taste the bourbon? I would think you'd have strong vanilla. This was pretty low gravity (1.043), so maybe your imperial version masks the vanilla, too?
Did you split your beans or cut them up?
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I used this recipe for my vanilla stout ( http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f68/none-more-black-vanilla-stout-96969/) and it turned out excellent. I had a lot of compliments. It was a 5 gallon batch though.
I split open the vanilla beans and put them into a growler that had a cup of bourbon and swirled it every day til I put it into my secondary. When I had my first beer it had so much vanilla flavor that it was almost over powering. I let it age for another 2 weeks and the vanilla had died down by then to a very...VERY good beer. If it's still over powering let it age for a while longer and give it another go.
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03-18-2013, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc77
I used this recipe for my vanilla stout ( http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f68/none-more-black-vanilla-stout-96969/) and it turned out excellent. I had a lot of compliments. It was a 5 gallon batch though.
I split open the vanilla beans and put them into a growler that had a cup of bourbon and swirled it every day til I put it into my secondary. When I had my first beer it had so much vanilla flavor that it was almost over powering. I let it age for another 2 weeks and the vanilla had died down by then to a very...VERY good beer. If it's still over powering let it age for a while longer and give it another go.
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Isn't that a lot of black patent?
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03-19-2013, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ericbw
I should have mentioned that. It's a 2.5 gallon batch. Do you taste the bourbon? I would think you'd have strong vanilla. This was pretty low gravity (1.043), so maybe your imperial version masks the vanilla, too?
Did you split your beans or cut them up?
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Yes a little bourbon, which is what I wanted also. It'll be ready in the fall/ winter, but I'll test a few here and there. I spilt and scraped all the beans. Soaked then in the bourbon for a month while it was fermenting. It's at 13%, so it's a big beer!
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