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Old 11-03-2008, 01:41 PM   #1
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Default Three Floyd's Gumball Head Extract Clone?

I've found many all grain clone recipes for Three Floyd's fantastic Gumball Head brew. The best reviewed of those is as follows:

Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 50.0 %
4.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 40.0 %
1.00 lb Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 10.0 %
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.90%] (80 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 8.9 IBU
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.90%] (15 min) Hops 7.6 IBU
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.90%] (55 min) Hops 7.5 IBU
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.90%] (5 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
0.20 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50%] (0 min) Hops -
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold (Dry Hop) [8.50%] (0 min) Hops - 4 days

Can anyone either convert this to extract or point me in the direction of a recipe that's already been made?



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Old 11-03-2008, 06:39 PM   #2
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Most wheat extracts are somewhere around 60% wheat and 40% 2-row, so it would be pretty easy to convert.

I am going to have to guess at the effeciency of the recipe you posted, but the malts should be about like this when converted to extract...

5.5 lbs Dry Wheat Extract
1.0 lbs Caravienne

Now to get the hops correct is going to be the hard part in a brew like this one with about 4 oz of hops, because you can't get the same affect from the hops doing a partial boil that you do when doing a full boil. If you are only boiling a few gallons, then the IBUs will be DRASTICALLY reduced in the final beer, meaning you will need to change the timing or amount of some additions, which will slightly alter the profile they give. If you could let me know your boil volume, I can work your hop additions out for you to keep them about the same.



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My interest is piqued. I happen to have 3 oz. Amarillo (thanks ErikTLupus) with no plans for them yet. I've not had this beer, but have heard nothing but good things about it. I would think about 8 oz. white wheat, 8 oz. 2-row, 1 lb. carivienne steeped/mashed with 5-6 lbs. wheat DME and the above hop schedule would be tasty. Anyone know what yeast is used? Ferm. temps?

I think I now have a recipe in the works. The load of hops in the secondary are what whets CU's lips!

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If you are only boiling a few gallons, then the IBUs will be DRASTICALLY reduced in the final beer, meaning you will need to change the timing or amount of some additions, which will slightly alter the profile they give. If you could let me know your boil volume, I can work your hop additions out for you to keep them about the same.
Would using the french press method help that out?

As in, boil a bit of water and steeping the 2 oz. in it, pressing it, and then adding the contents to the fermenter after it has cooled. That instead of simply adding the hops to the carboy.
I've heard it can help maximize the flavor you get from the hops.
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My interest is piqued. I happen to have 3 oz. Amarillo (thanks ErikTLupus) with no plans for them yet. I've not had this beer, but have heard nothing but good things about it. I would think about 8 oz. white wheat, 8 oz. 2-row, 1 lb. carivienne steeped/mashed with 5-6 lbs. wheat DME and the above hop schedule would be tasty. Anyone know what yeast is used? Ferm. temps?

I think I now have a recipe in the works. The load of hops in the secondary are what whets CU's lips!
I'm really new to all this. But is that for 10 gallons or 5?
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five gallons

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Would using the french press method help that out?

As in, boil a bit of water and steeping the 2 oz. in it, pressing it, and then adding the contents to the fermenter after it has cooled. That instead of simply adding the hops to the carboy.
I've heard it can help maximize the flavor you get from the hops.
You wouldn't get the same flavor from them as you would from putting them in the boil. It gives a grassier, fresher hop flavor and aroma with the press method, so it wouldn't be replecating the brew you are trying to clone.
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I used Wyeast 2450 in mine and it came out great. You could use US-05 or 1056, but I think 1272 would be really nice and accentuate all that amarillo.

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I used Wyeast 2450 in mine and it came out great. You could use US-05 or 1056, but I think 1272 would be really nice and accentuate all that amarillo.

Good on ya! I have 05 and Notty, and wouldn't be against getting a liquid strain to fully replicate what they use. Just wondering if anyone near Munster has an inside track.
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It'd be nice to have an extract version of this, in for more...



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