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wordsmith 09-25-2012 10:35 PM

Sweet Stout recipe feedback
 
As my second batch is fermenting in the swamp cooler, my thoughts turn toward the future, which I think holds a sweet stout. I want something my wife will like, which means malty, not hoppy, sweet, and maybe chocolatey. I'd like this stout to be something you'd drink on a winter night in place of hot cocoa without actually including cocoa. After poring through nearly a dozen sweet stout recipes, here is what I've come up with for my own 5 gal recipe:

4lbs Dark LME
1.2lb Pale LME
1.2lb Wheat LME
.25lbs Black Patent Malt
1lb Chocolate Malt
.75lb Crystal Malt 60L
.75lb Roasted Unmalted Barley
.4lb Oats, Flaked

1oz Goldings, US at 60min
.5oz Fuggles at 5 min

1 Whirlfloc at 15 min
1lb Lactose at 5 min

Safale US-04

I'm considering adding some vanilla extract a week before bottling, but haven't decided.

3-4 weeks primary, then bottle.

4 oz Brown sugar to prime.

So, what do y'all think? I have very little ego, so feel free to suggest away regarding any part. Also, could someone Beersmith this for me so I can get an estimate of target OG? Looking forward to the feedback!

ReddHead 09-26-2012 04:53 PM

Sounds yummy. What do you think the ingredients will run you? I want to do a stout in the future.

wordsmith 09-26-2012 05:12 PM

Not sure yet about the cost. I've not had the time to price everything out at the LHBS or online but will do so soon and post.

Edited to add: I converted DME to LME to save $, and the total comes out to $48.55, not including priming sugar or Whirlfloc tab because I already have those.

I modified the hops, settled on a yeast, and added oats to the original posted recipe.

Still interested in 1) a Beersmith analysis and 2) any suggestions, critiques, improvements, additions, subtractions, modifications, etc.

Safa 09-27-2012 03:05 PM

*bump*

I'm interested what a beersmith says about this, looks great!

joyceman 09-27-2012 05:06 PM

With those those two 1 oz additions, youre looking at a relatively hoppy stout. Especially with the German Magnum at 14 or so aa. I havent run the math but have you considered your ibus on this one. Given what you said in the OP not sure this is what you want. I'd consider dropping the Magnum and going with only the EKG for the 60 min addition.

wordsmith 09-27-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joyceman (Post 4449647)
With those those two 1 oz additions, youre looking at a relatively hoppy stout. Especially with the German Magnum at 14 or so aa. I havent run the math but have you considered your ibus on this one. Given what you said in the OP not sure this is what you want. I'd consider dropping the Magnum and going with only the EKG for the 60 min addition.

Noted, agreed, and done. I also reduced the original LME total, switched the amber LME with pale LME, and reduced the amount of black patent. If I want higher ABV, I'll probably up the dark LME further.

Thanks for the feedback so far. Bad news, the wife didn't like the Left Hand Milk Stout I brought home as a sample, so this one will likely be just for me.

New total cost estimate, before tax, is $34.52.

redsoxfan1974 09-28-2012 01:30 PM

I brewed this recipe in April and at this time may be the best Sweet Stout I've ever drank.

SPECIALTY GRAIN
0.5 lbs English Chocolate Malt
0.5 lbs Weyermann Carafa III
FERMENTABLES
3 lbs Amber malt syrup (60 min)
1 lbs Lactose (60) Min
1 oz Willamette (60 min)
3 lbs Amber malt syrup (15 min)
Wyeast 1945 NeoBrittania

Steeped grains at 150 degrees for 30 minutes.
2 weeks primary, 2 weeks secondary, and 4 weeks bottle conditioning. This beer gets better with age.

O.G 1.054
F.G. 1.017
ABV 4.9%

ncbrewer 09-28-2012 02:39 PM

I don't see anyhthing in your recipe about full boil, standard partial boil, or partial boil with late extract addition. The hop utilization will be affected by all this, according to some of the experts.

redsoxfan1974 09-28-2012 03:05 PM

Sorry for the miscue. I edited the post and added the information.

Safa 10-15-2012 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wordsmith
As my second batch is fermenting in the swamp cooler, my thoughts turn toward the future, which I think holds a sweet stout. I want something my wife will like, which means malty, not hoppy, sweet, and maybe chocolatey. I'd like this stout to be something you'd drink on a winter night in place of hot cocoa without actually including cocoa. After poring through nearly a dozen sweet stout recipes, here is what I've come up with for my own 5 gal recipe:

4lbs Dark LME
1.2lb Pale LME
1.2lb Wheat LME
.25lbs Black Patent Malt
1lb Chocolate Malt
.75lb Crystal Malt 60L
.75lb Roasted Unmalted Barley
.4lb Oats, Flaked

1oz Goldings, US at 60min
.5oz Fuggles at 5 min

1 Whirlfloc at 15 min
1lb Lactose at 5 min

Safale US-04

I'm considering adding some vanilla extract a week before bottling, but haven't decided.

3-4 weeks primary, then bottle.

4 oz Brown sugar to prime.

So, what do y'all think? I have very little ego, so feel free to suggest away regarding any part. Also, could someone Beersmith this for me so I can get an estimate of target OG? Looking forward to the feedback!

I just brewed this recipe with some small adjustments. I used 6lb light LME instead of the first two ingredients and switched half a pound of the chocolate malt for chocolate wheat.

Messed up my boil off guess and ended up with about 6 gallons of wort. OG was 1.074 @ 76 degrees. Pretty damn high! Not sure if that's normal for a stout or not, but I suppose there is a lot of unfermentable lactose in there too.

Looking forward to this one!


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