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Old 10-23-2008, 08:49 PM   #1
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I'm looking for a good lightly smoked porter recipe...

Anyone got a good one for extract?

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Old 10-23-2008, 11:37 PM   #2
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I don't have a recipe handy, nor do I have brewing software.

I would suggest something like:
7-8 # light LME
1# chocolate malt
1# rauchmalt (this may be not enough, depending on how smoky you want it)
1/2# crystal 40
1/4# black malt

Any hop you want to give you 25-30IBU for 60 minutes (again, no software on me)

WLP028 Edinburh Ale yeast (or any american ale dry yeat if you want to save money, this is just what I would use)

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Old 10-24-2008, 12:00 AM   #3
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I do believe rauchmalt needs to be mashed so the best I can suggest for extract would be to smoke some specialty malt to steep, though I don't know how well this would work.

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Old 10-24-2008, 12:02 AM   #4
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You would need to mash it if you wanted to convert the startches into sugar. But I believe that if you just wanted flavor and color from it, steeping should do it.

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Old 10-24-2008, 12:23 AM   #5
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You would need to mash it if you wanted to convert the startches into sugar. But I believe that if you just wanted flavor and color from it, steeping should do it.
Yeah, I generally don't count on much gravity contribution from steeping any grains. I dont' really know which ones require mashing and which don't, I confess.


He could also try 1-2 DROPS of liquid smoke in secondary. I once knew a guy that won competitions with a smoked porter he made in this way, go figure!
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:48 PM   #6
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Cool... Thanks for the ideas!

Not sure about that liquid smoke stuff... But I will be steeping for sure!

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Old 10-28-2008, 12:43 AM   #7
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I have heard about using liquid smoke from a few places, such as Papazian's book. What I don't know is how much to add to a 5 gallon extract batch.

I can tell you that 1-2 drops will be indiscernable. When I make Jerky I use around 10.

I planned to use it in a Bock as well. The brewery I bottle at just won a Silver in competition with a smoked Hellerbock called Smoke Out at the Great American Beer Festival. Don't know where they got smoke from.

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Please don't use Liquid smoke in a beer.

Just take the step up to mini mash and mash some rauch malt along with a pound or so of two row and the specialty grains.

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I just did some research after reading a similar post as this one. Here is my response to that.

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Many years ago, I made a five gallon batch of stout where I steeped a pound or so of rauchmalt, and it came out pretty good. You can certainly get by steeping some rauchmalt, but I would never recommend trying a steep for 50% of your grain bill, no matter what the heck you were doing.

And, yeah, holy cow, keep Liquid Smoke very far away from beer!


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Papazian Complete Joy of HB
Miscellaneous Ingred.
Liquid Smoke - Use it!
Do not use kind with vinegar or preservatives, salt, spices.
1 teaspoon/5 gal = well perceived smoke flavor

Here is my Haddon House brand Liquid Smoke Ingredients list -
Water
Hickory Smoke Concentrate
Polysorbate 80

Polysorbate 80 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is classified as an emulsifier. I don't have any idea what the rest means, but I don't see it described as a preservative.

I'm making a Bock and then a Porter with the stuff. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

I intend to mini-mash, but since I am in the middle of a job hunt, remodeling my entire house, and providing primary care to a super awesome baby, not anytime soon. Ahm onna drip the cheater juice all up in it!

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Here is my Haddon House brand Liquid Smoke Ingredients list -
Water
Hickory Smoke Concentrate
Polysorbate 80

Polysorbate 80 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is classified as an emulsifier. I don't have any idea what the rest means, but I don't see it described as a preservative.
An emulsifier is something that creates / keeps chemicals in an emulsion - in other words it keeps the concentrate from separating from the water.
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