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Old 11-25-2009, 04:29 AM   #11
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Just about to stick on an extract kit (Muntens Gold Continental Pilsner) and I thought it was a lager but the instructions say to place in a warm area for primary fermentation then afer bottling to place in a warm area again for 2 days before moving to a cool place for at least 21 days. Does this make sense? I thought that for a lager I'd have to put the whole lot in the fridge for primary and secondary? Also, when they say "cool place" do they mean fridge? Circa 4 degrees celcius?

Speedy response greatly appreciated - just finished bottling 2 stout batches (one choc one plain) and want to get the next two batches down this evening.

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Not to speedy, but a response anyway. To properly accomplish a lager, one must have two dedicated refidgerators or freezers with controllers. One for primary, and one for lagering.
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Hey, I have a dedicated fridge but I'm not sure how accurate the thermostat is - I'm guessing it is around 2-3 degrees celcius. Does it need to be more precise than this?

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Hey, I have a dedicated fridge but I'm not sure how accurate the thermostat is - I'm guessing it is around 2-3 degrees celcius. Does it need to be more precise than this?
You know, they were lagering in caves, and cellars not too many decades ago, and many of us ghetto lager in our garages relying on only ambient temps (and I won an honorable mention for one of those.)

This isn't nuclear physics, it's making beer. You only need to be precise if you are particularly anal...but otherwise, cold + lager yeast = Beer.
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Not to speedy, but a response anyway. To properly accomplish a lager, one must have two dedicated refidgerators or freezers with controllers. One for primary, and one for lagering.
Meh...see my comment above.
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This isn't nuclear physics, it's making beer. You only need to be precise if you are particularly anal...but otherwise, cold + lager yeast = Beer.
And this is why I love brewing! It seems almost difficult to ruin a brew once everything is clean.
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So for a total beginner here, is it correct to sum up and say that if your kit comes with "Lager" yeast, then you should ferment at a low temp, and if it comes with "Ale" yeast you should ferment at normal temps?

Presumably you just follow the directions that come with it, but I haven't found a place where you can see those ahead of time. We don't have extra fridge room (or a garage), so I don't want to buy a kit we won't be able to make--that would break my heart!

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So for a total beginner here, is it correct to sum up and say that if your kit comes with "Lager" yeast, then you should ferment at a low temp, and if it comes with "Ale" yeast you should ferment at normal temps?

Presumably you just follow the directions that come with it, but I haven't found a place where you can see those ahead of time. We don't have extra fridge room (or a garage), so I don't want to buy a kit we won't be able to make--that would break my heart!
You would be correct in your assumption. If you dont have a temperature controlled area in your house then you need to stick with ale recipes until you do. Otherwise your beers will come out poorly (at least the lager beers).

I actually just got my temp controlled place set up. I got an old fridge off of craigslist and bought a temperature control gauge from midwest brewer for about $75. For that small investment I can now brew a lot more beers than I ever could without this. Aside from a bigger/nicer brew pot, a fermentation control area is the best thing to invest in for starting to brew IMO.
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I'm particularly anal..
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