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Old 02-16-2009, 11:55 PM   #1
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So I'm trying to piece together a recipe using Hdb.org. Its a American brown kinda

Brewer: Reem
Beer: Trench town Brown Style: American Brown

Type: Extract w/grain Size: 5 gallons
Color: 24 HCU (~13 SRM)
Bitterness: 39 IBU

OG: 1.050 FG: 1.017
Alcohol: 4.2% v/v (3.3% w/w)

Grain: 1 lb. American crystal 60L
5 oz. Flaked oats
Boil: minutes SG 1.083 3 gallons
3 lb. 3 oz. Amber malt extract
10 oz. Molasses
2 lb. Light dry malt extract

Hops: 1.0 oz. Chinook (12% AA, 60 min.)
.5 oz. Kent Goldings (5% AA, 30 min.)
.5 oz. Willamette (5% AA, 15 min.)

Any suggestions on a yeast would be great. Or any suggestions on any thing would be great as well.
Thanks In Advance


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Old 02-17-2009, 01:01 PM   #2
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anyone out there?
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Blucyzer, Cyzer.
Bottled: Apfelwein 2, Crazy Beech Bitter
Trench Town Brown, Mouf of the Souf Stout, New Mouf of the Souf, Oaked Apfel, Slow-wit
Next Up:Cream ale, Scott red, 888RIS or cocoOatmealRIS, Apfelwein and more Apfelwein

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Old 02-17-2009, 04:03 PM   #3
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I'm not sure there's any point using oats as long as you are just steeping them. Oats need to be mashed with some base grain to convert their starches. I would either drop the oats, or do a partial mash and swap some of the extract for a pound or two of 2-row.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:12 PM   #4
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Hi Notnice. I would only consider myself an intermediate brewer, so take this advice for what it is worth.

The White Labs web site lists 5 yeasts as being good for American Browns. I think the one you chose should be determined by whether you want a dry or sweet finish and your fermentation temperature. I calculated a 66% attenuation (1.050 to 1.017) in your recipe. All of White Labs recommendations attenuate at 70-80% so you would end up with more alcohol and a drier beer if you use them. You could search for a yeast with an attenuation rate closer to 66%.

White Labs

Ferm Temp Attenuation
WLP001 California Ale 68-73 73-80
WLP007 Dry English 65-70 70-80
WLP028 Edinburgh 65-70 70-75
WLP029 German/Kolsch 65-69 72-78
WLP051 California V 66-70 70-75

Also, your recipe doesn't have much for flavor hops. I'm not sure, but I figured an American Brown would have more of a hop flavor than an English.

Also, I'd leave out the molasses, but that is personal preference and an experience I had with messing up a stout with molasses.


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Old 02-17-2009, 06:24 PM   #5
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Shawn- the oats are more there for mouth-feel/body than for sugar content. The oatmeal stout in my Sig called for them and it seems like it would work for me. I wanted this to be not as sweet as the Irish ales but not overly bitter like pale ales

Beehive- Thanks for the yeast suggestion it was just a guess at the final g ill take a look at the WLP001 and the WLP051.
also Bee I really want to try the molasses, so what did u do wrong or would of done differently with it. I'm planning on adding it late like 5-7min
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Bottled: Apfelwein 2, Crazy Beech Bitter
Trench Town Brown, Mouf of the Souf Stout, New Mouf of the Souf, Oaked Apfel, Slow-wit
Next Up:Cream ale, Scott red, 888RIS or cocoOatmealRIS, Apfelwein and more Apfelwein

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:15 PM   #6
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I think I underestimated the potency of the molasses. My beer didn't attenuate very well and I was left with a really sweet, kind of weird tasting stout.

I would recommend getting advice from someone who has successfully used it as far as quantity and the effects it will impart.

I used a pound in a five gallon batch.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:19 PM   #7
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thanks for the advice I will use allot less than a pound . I really want this to be an original maybe a house ale.

On a second thought if not the oats maybe some malotdextrin(sp?)
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I used a half pound of molasses in a porter, which tasted pretty funky at first but turned out really well after after 6 months aging. It's a very intense flavor: if you want the beer to be drinkable quickly, I'd start with maybe a quarter pound, and then increase from there if you find you want more of it.

If you are steeping rather than mashing, I would definitely go with maltodextrin (or maybe a pale crystal?) rather than oats for boosting your body and mouth feel.
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for mouthfeel, try some biscuit or victory in your mash. the oats will work too, but they really need a full mash. edinburg is a really interesting yeast. finishes nice and malty. california ale is a good all around ale yeast. 4 oz malto dextrin would do good for the body.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:56 AM   #10
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4oz of the malto check. and is just steeping at 155 for 30min considerd a mash?
also I'm thinking a litle Irish moss to help clear.


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Bottled: Apfelwein 2, Crazy Beech Bitter
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Next Up:Cream ale, Scott red, 888RIS or cocoOatmealRIS, Apfelwein and more Apfelwein

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