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abelseville 12-30-2012 10:20 AM

Really old kit?
Hi, this is my first post so go easy on me. I finally found a question I couldn't answer with the handy search bar.

I was given a ten year old starter kit yesterday which contained a can of hopped LME, 2 pounds of DME, Crystal malt, roasted barley, hops and yeast. The can of LME seems to have some outward pressure. Question - Is any of this stuff possibly good to use still? Will any of it make me sick even after boiling or is my only risk a bad batch of beer?

Oh also a tub of B-brite.

hercher 12-30-2012 11:42 AM

I don't believe it will make you sick. I would get new yeast, as this may no longer be viable, after 10 years. The crystal and roasted barley are stale, so you'd be better off replacing those, as well.

The B-brite is fine.

nasty_rabbit 12-30-2012 11:53 AM

A friend of mine was in the same situation, 7 year old kit. We replaced the yeast and brewed it. After fermentation it was terrible. The only benefit was teaching him technique. If I were to have the opportunity to do it all over I would scrap it and buy new. He got to see what it took to make beer without the chance to get to drink good beer. + 1 on keeping the B-brite though.

abelseville 12-30-2012 08:02 PM

Thanks for the tips. I just tried to energize the yeast (expiration date 2000) and it's actually bubbling! Ill throw out the specialty grains though.

Frogmanx82 12-30-2012 08:06 PM

Someone gave me some old Mr. Beer cans. You can tell when you open it whether the smell is good or not. Several of the cans I opened were definitely bad and I didn't really trust any of them. Its just not worth the effort to brew if you don't have good ingredients.

dirtyhalos 12-31-2012 05:15 PM

what would be the shelf life on extract ingredient kits?

in particular i'm asking about the kits from morebeer.

srb4128 01-02-2013 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by dirtyhalos
what would be the shelf life on extract ingredient kits?

in particular i'm asking about the kits from morebeer.

I recently called northern brewers about saving a winter beer extract kit I just got for Christmas until next fall when I would enjoy it more. He strongly advised me against it and said I'd be better of brewing then letting the bottles age because the ingredients may well go to an 'off' flavor. Not sure if this Is 100% true in all cases, but it may give you some insight

srb4128 01-02-2013 12:57 AM


Sir-Hops-A-Lot 01-02-2013 03:26 AM

Why brew old ingredients? The process involves a lot of work and patience. Why would you want to invest all the time to brew, clean, and bottle to watch some wonky batch mature in the hopes that it will somehow defy the odds and turn out drinkable when you can simply buy a fresh kit and enjoy.
There are only two HBSs in my city and I avoid one because they aren't very careful about the storage temp and due date. Consider this: toss the old stuff!

twalte 01-02-2013 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by 45_70sharps
I had to look at what a beer machine was. Like a Mr. Beer.
If it's an old package, don't use the kits that come with it. Check out this thread and video.


Don't let this happen to you!
If you enjoy using this, you will probably be buying the gear for standard five gallon batches soon enough!

As for terms and abbreviations, you would have to list what you are reading and not understanding for most people to be able to help you.

Check this out before using an old kit. I got a kick out of this one.

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