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Old 11-13-2009, 03:07 PM   #191
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well tomorrow is the opening of the beer after two weeks of sitting. the samples taken early in the week and last week show that it gets better with time...the Carbonation is just right...will see what the verdict is....Also will be going to the homebrew sto in Bham for hopage and yeastes
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Old 11-13-2009, 04:11 PM   #192
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I'm right behind you, OP. Most of my bottles are still carbing, but there's one that has been rock hard for a few days--must have had a little extra yeast in it from bottling. I've been thinking seriously about chilling it this evening and giving it a try. I'm really curious to see if my makeshift "DIY Beer Kit" with the 2.5 gal water bottle really makes beer or was just a wild idea. Look forward to hearing the results of the taste test.
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Old 11-14-2009, 01:22 AM   #193
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that is so cool on that DIY beer kit...I have to track down the homebrew store in bham tomorrow..Oh the carbonation on this bottle was well a bit heavy...molasses does make a great primer...ALL of the bottle look great will see about it tomorrow...they are carrying a heavy alcohol number tho
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Old 11-14-2009, 03:47 AM   #194
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Let me know about that LHBS in Birmingham. My work has an office in Pelham and we have doctors in B'ham so I'm down there pretty often. Be interested to know what they have. The LHBS in Huntsville is an old health food store that hasn't been renovated (or cleaned) since the 70's. That's why I was so glad to find PME at the Foodland down the street.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:59 AM   #195
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I just bottled my 2.5 gallon PME batch and I was waiting to see how it turned out to see if this "DIY Beer Kit" was worth mentioning or not. Seems to be going OK, so I thought it might be safe to share it with the world. Here it is:

**Note** This is not intended to be a real craft beer. Just something to try if you're in the mood for something easy, have limited space/time/money, all your fermenters are full, etc, etc. I've done this exactly once, so YMMV...

1 - 2.5 gallon container of spring water (the square kind with a spigot)
1 - 2.2 lb can Premier Malt Extract - light hopped
1 - package Munton's Ale Yeast (or you can use the yeast that comes with the PME if you feel sure it's fresh)
2 cups table sugar plus some for priming
24 - 12oz plastic soda bottles, cleaned & sanitized
1-airlock with rubber stopper (rubber is important)
1- sharp knife

Break the seal on the spigot of the water container and drain about 1.5 gallons into a clean container. Heat 3 quarts of the removed water to a boil and remove from heat. (Optional: you can do this as a no-boil beer; just put 3 quarts of the water into a sanitized gallon jug.) Add the can of malt extract and the sugar; shake/stir vigorously until completely mixed and there is no extract residue clinging to the bottom of the container.

Clean and sanitize the top of the water container on the outside. On the top of the container, use a sanitized sharp knife to cut a 1" hole, making it as perfectly round as possible. Pour the malt/sugar/water mixture back into the container through the hole and top up with remaining water, leaving about 1 to 1-1/2" of head space. When the wort has cooled to about 80 degrees (if you did a boil,) pitch the yeast. Seal the hole with airlock & stopper. It is important to use one of the white rubber stoppers--the silicone kind are too firm and will not make a tight seal. Rubber stoppers are flexible enough to accommodate imperfections in the shape of the hole.

Ferment until airlock activity stops and you can see through the container that the yeast has dropped. (1-2 weeks). Clean and sanitize 24 12oz plastic soda bottles (Dr. Pepper works best). Prime bottles with 1/2 tsp table sugar per bottle and fill from the spigot on the water container. Condition in a dark place. When bottles have become rock-hard, wait one more week before chilling & serving.

When you're finished bottling, throw the fermenter away. When you're finished drinking throw the bottles away. No racking, no hoses, no capping, no boiling (if you prefer), no mess. You're done. You can make this and drink it while all your carboys are full of mead & apfelwein that's taking forever to age. Or while all your fermenters and kegs are full of that really good beer you're making for the holidays. If you have an extra airlock & stopper and you live near one of those country stores that carries Premier Malt, you can do the whole project without even a trip to the LHBS. Good luck!

So tonight I just had to open one of these and see how it's going. They are still carbing, but one or two of the 12oz soda bottles have been hard for a few days. It was just barely chilled, but I went ahead and tried it anyway. And.....

It's gonna be pretty good, I think. Still obviously very young, but smoothing out well. This particular bottle was reasonably well carbed; still could use a little more, but started to make a nice little head. It is, like the can says, "lightly hopped," but that's OK; I'm not a hophead. Considering I have $12 in the whole batch, no boiling, and everything except my airlock & stopper is disposable, it's going to be a remarkably drinkable beer for very little effort & money. If it were any easier it would be apfelwein....

This taste has convinced me to give it a little more time so I can really enjoy it. I think I'll pick up a few more commercial brews and get by for a few days longer and give it some time to really come around. I think this will make a nice Thanksgiving present for myself!

If anybody else tries this recipe or the disposable "kit" I'd like to hear about it.
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Old 11-22-2009, 03:25 PM   #196
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Had another one of these last night, right after drinking a commercial BMC-type "light" beer. The water-bottle brewed PME beer was at least as good and shows every sign of being much better, if I can keep my hands off of it for a few more days. I can also see room to improve--swap the sugar out for a pound of light DME and this could be a very, very nice beer. Plus it has to be just about the easiest way to make beer out there, other than perhaps those 2-liter soda-bottle kits. Definitely will be doing another one. Since my workshop isn't air conditioned, I need to set up a row of these this spring to get ahead of the hot weather.
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:23 PM   #197
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sounds like a plan.. I haven't started up a new brew. the 5 gallons with the two cans told me that was the way to go. I did learn if too much home is partaken of that in the morning a skull crusher of a headache will result if one hasn't partaken 4 times in water. The entire batch was more than enjoyed by 30 something folks...I like just think some flavoried malts and hops will turn it to what i would like a the longer it sits the better it gets
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:19 AM   #198
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I'm kind of a light drinker--usually one in the evening or a glass of wine or homebrewed cider is plenty for me. Was kind of rare for me two have two beers back to back but I wanted to do a taste comparison. However, I can tell from tasting this batch that it would be easy to partake of quite a bit of it I really need to get a couple more batches going so I can find out how much better it can get--it's hard to leave this one alone. I'm just pleased at how my rigged-up kit method worked out--I'm sure there are ways to make it better but it is cool to be able to run down to the little Foodland store and pick up everything you need to make a batch of homebrew including the container to ferment it in.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:50 PM   #199
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A mail to Premier Malt Extract directed me to their Canadian subsiduary/associate, United Canadian Malt.

They only have one 'consumer' product, BruMix, a hopped malt extract in 1.13kg cans. A visit to a local u-brew yesterday, however, confirmed that they are using UCM LME in what looked like 200L (50 gallon) drums.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:59 PM   #200
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They only have one 'consumer' product, BruMix, a hopped malt extract in 1.13kg cans. A visit to a local u-brew yesterday, however, confirmed that they are using UCM LME in what looked like 200L (50 gallon) drums.
Sounds like BruMix and PME are most likely the same stuff with a different label.

I'm drinking one of mine even as I write this--after a few weeks bottle conditioning it's tasting quite nice. This particular batch reminds me a little of a Sam Adams. Planning to start another batch soon in another 2.5 gallon water bottle. From everything I read on this thread the main complaint with PME seems to be that the recommended recipe isn't nearly enough malt. Maybe it's supposed to be a lite beer Since my brew space is limited, instead of doubling the ingredients I just half the water.
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