Electric Brewing Supply 30A BCS Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Extract Brewing > Pils help please
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-16-2007, 08:13 PM   #1
Oakwood
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oakwood, Ohio
Posts: 82
Default Pils help please

Just got my kit from NB for the Czech Pilsner. The directions inside say one thing the box say another and then the yeast says somthing else. I just need to know if I:

Steep: 15-20 minutes 150 degrees
Boil: 60 minutes
Pitch at 75-70 degrees

what should be the proper primary firmantaion and secdary clearing as I don't want to get it to cold the yeast shuts down nor to warm that it doesn't come out right.

Please help.

__________________
Primary - A: Apfelwein
Primary - B: Empty
Secondary - l: River Horse Summer Blonde
Secondary - ll: Empty
Kegged:
#1 - American Wheat
#2 - Empty
#3 - Empty
Planned: River Horse Summer Blonde Ale
Oakwood is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-16-2007, 08:17 PM   #2
Beerrific
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Beerrific's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 5,600
Liked 45 Times on 37 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

All depends on the yeast. What type did you get?

__________________
Beerrific is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-16-2007, 08:23 PM   #4
Evan!
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Evan!'s Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 11,901
Liked 69 Times on 61 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

NB's site sayeth Wyeast #2278 Czech Pils.

__________________
MOSS HOLLOW BREWING CO.
Aristocratic Ales, Lascivious Lagers


.planned:
•Scottish 80/- •Sweet Stout •Roggenbier
.primary | bright:
98: Moss Hollow Soured '09 72: Oude Kriek 99: B-Weisse 102: Brett'd BDSA 104: Feat of Strength Helles Bock 105: Merkin Brown
.on tap | kegged:
XX: Moss Hollow Springs Sparkling Water 95: Gott Mit Uns German Pils 91b: Brown Willie's Oaked Abbey Ale 103: Merkin Stout
98: Yorkshire Special 100: Maple Porter 89: Cidre Saison 101: Steffiweizen '09 (#3)
Evan! is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-16-2007, 09:09 PM   #5
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Upper Michigan
Posts: 61,667
Liked 4636 Times on 3367 Posts
Likes Given: 909

Default

Well, if you're using Wyeast #2278, here's what they say:

2278 Czech Pils Yeast. Classic pilsner strain from the home of pilsners for a dry, but malty finish. The perfect choice for pilsners and all malt beers. Sulfur produced during fermentation dissipates with conditioning. Flocculation - med.. to high; apparent attenuation 70-74%. (50-58° F, 10-14° C)

So, you'd do the fermentation at 50-58 degrees. Then, after about 12 days or so, you'd rack to secondary and then do the secondary fermentation at about the same temperature. After the fermentation is done, you'd lager the beer at 34 degrees or so for about four weeks.

I don't know if you need to do a diacetyl rest or not with that yeast- but it doesn't say that you need to. Maybe someone else will know for sure.

I don't know what the instructions would be different - what did they say to do?

__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006
Yooper is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-16-2007, 11:12 PM   #6
Oakwood
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oakwood, Ohio
Posts: 82
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yooper Chick
So, you'd do the fermentation at 50-58 degrees.
Okay I think my basment stays around 58-60 then it is a concret floor should I set it on the floor and leave it there?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yooper Chick
Then, after about 12 days or so, you'd rack to secondary and then do the secondary fermentation at about the same temperature.
Again will the basement floor be okay? I hear you guys talk about using floor and wet towels to keep the beer cold. I don't have space or another fridge to store it in right now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yooper Chick
After the fermentation is done, you'd lager the beer at 34 degrees or so for about four weeks.
What does Lager the beer mean? I am a newby to Lagers/Pils. I have done a few ales but nothing like this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yooper Chick
I don't know if you need to do a diacetyl rest or not with that yeast- but it doesn't say that you need to.
Again what is this?
__________________
Primary - A: Apfelwein
Primary - B: Empty
Secondary - l: River Horse Summer Blonde
Secondary - ll: Empty
Kegged:
#1 - American Wheat
#2 - Empty
#3 - Empty
Planned: River Horse Summer Blonde Ale
Oakwood is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-17-2007, 12:47 AM   #7
Yooper
Ale's What Cures You!
HBT_ADMIN.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Yooper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Upper Michigan
Posts: 61,667
Liked 4636 Times on 3367 Posts
Likes Given: 909

Default

Well, brewing lagers is different than ales. Well, the brewing is the same, but the fermentation and handling are different.

A good resource is here: http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter10-4.html

What do your instructions say? That would be a good place to start. You said they're different than the yeast instructions, but usually the instructions with the kits are pretty good.

I'd suggest reading up on lagers in howtobrew.com and the wiki (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/ind...menting_Lagers) before starting to brew this one.

__________________
Broken Leg Brewery
Giving beer a leg to stand on since 2006
Yooper is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-17-2007, 01:24 PM   #8
zoebisch01
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
zoebisch01's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Central PA
Posts: 5,198
Liked 7 Times on 7 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oakwood

What does Lager the beer mean? I am a newby to Lagers/Pils. I have done a few ales but nothing like this.

Lagering I believe is the German word for "to store". This is basically what you do, you hold the beer at cold temperatures for long periods of time.

Not trying to be a wet blanket, but I would seriously caution you not to attempt the beer at the high range of ferment temps. You won't get the classic Lager clean profile, and will most likely have some estery flavors in there that will remind you of an Ale. The one main reason to make a Lager is to avoid the esters (there are exceptions of course). Most people use what is called a "Lagerator" which is basically where they can hold the Lager at the proper (colder) temps.

Just wanted to add that Lagers are usually about simplicity of ingredients and perfection of process (imo anyway)
__________________
Event Horizon ~ A tribute to the miracle of fermentation.

Brew what you like. Do this, and you will find your inner brewer.
zoebisch01 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 04-19-2007, 12:56 PM   #9
Oakwood
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oakwood, Ohio
Posts: 82
Default

Going to pick up a frigde this weekend and maybe boil over next week. This should allow me to keep the beer at the required 34-40 degrees noted in the online artical. Any other tips are welcome.

__________________
Primary - A: Apfelwein
Primary - B: Empty
Secondary - l: River Horse Summer Blonde
Secondary - ll: Empty
Kegged:
#1 - American Wheat
#2 - Empty
#3 - Empty
Planned: River Horse Summer Blonde Ale
Oakwood is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Belgian Pils v. German Pils EamusCatuli Recipes/Ingredients 2 09-16-2008 09:04 PM
Pils? Mr. Awesome Recipes/Ingredients 2 06-29-2008 12:49 AM
Bohemian Pils UselessBrewing Recipes/Ingredients 10 03-04-2008 04:15 PM
2 row Pils and 2 row Pale ?? EdWort All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 25 03-02-2008 03:18 PM
Extract - Bohunk Pils mrkristofo Pilsner 0 01-24-2008 08:04 AM