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Old 04-18-2008, 11:12 PM   #1
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Default OH NO - made a big mistake

I was chatting with my neighbor when I realized I just put the full 1 oz of Williamette in the 5 gallon boil instead of the reduced amount accounting for the full 5 gallons. IS there any way to reduce the hop utilization and keep it from being overly hoppy?

This is a porter kit. Can I boil is for less time?? Man, ehat a rookie mistake that was... got to pay more attention to my brew schedule....

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Old 04-18-2008, 11:15 PM   #2
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reducing the boil time will reduce isomerization (bittering effect from the hops) but it will leave more residual hop flavor / aroma and reduce water evaporation.

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HUH??? Accounting for the reduced amount what???

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Post your recipe including the hop schedule....then we'll be able to help.

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Hmmm - ok thanks.
If this will leave more residual hop flavor, should I reduce the amount of hops I add on flame out?

Revvy - I am talking about the basic instructions of a kit - they are written for a partial boil, not a full 5 gallon boil. Gotta reduce the hops that come in the kit if you do a full boil.

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You won't notice the difference of 1-3 more IBU's. Ignore the mistake and proceed like normal. I wouldn't classify this as a big mistake. Hell, its barely registers on the mistake chart.
Hop utilization is already a crapshoot with so many virtually uncontrollable variables for the home brewer. Your 'calculated' IBU ESTIMATE numbers already have a significant +/- error in them anyway. We aren't BMC, we don't have a lab to measure this crap nor to we need to hit exact numbers.

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Simply put: Reducing the boiling time will reduce the bitterness of the beer.

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IMHO, robust porters (I am not sure what style of porter you are brewing) do well with a moderate to high hop level. I am a huge fan of Stone's Smoked Porter and it is very hoppy. Below is my Dawg Pound Porter. It has a fair hop flavor and aroma along with bitterness that balances well with the roastyness of the brew (better than you would think).

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Dawg Pound Porter
Brewer: Chris Couevas
Asst Brewer:
Style: Robust Porter
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.34 gal
Estimated OG: 1.058 SG
Estimated Color: 35.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 46.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

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Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 77.20 %
0.88 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 7.99 %
0.75 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 6.81 %
0.50 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 4.54 %
0.25 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 2.27 %
0.13 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 1.18 %
3.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 46.4 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (1 min) Hops 0.4 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
0.50 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
1 Pkgs English Ale (White Labs #WLP002) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: My Mash
Total Grain Weight: 11.01 lb
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My Mash
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
40 min Single Infusion Add 13.76 qt of water at 171.1 F 155.0 F

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While you're technically right, the utilization will be greater if you do a full 5 gallon boil, you'll never notice it in the finished product. Now, if you accidently dropped an entire country ham in the wort, that would be a major mistake. Or, if you put any vanilla in it. I did that once. That was a major mistake.

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Revvy - I am talking about the basic instructions of a kit - they are written for a partial boil, not a full 5 gallon boil. Gotta reduce the hops that come in the kit if you do a full boil.
So your kit gave you two different hop amount depending on the size of your boil...Wow, I've never come across a kit that did that..

Now I understand.

I think JimC said it best...

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You won't notice the difference of 1-3 more IBU's. Ignore the mistake and proceed like normal. I wouldn't classify this as a big mistake. Hell, its barely registers on the mistake chart.
Hop utilization is already a crapshoot with so many virtually uncontrollable variables for the home brewer. Your 'calculated' IBU ESTIMATE numbers already have a significant +/- error in them anyway. We aren't BMC, we don't have a lab to measure this crap nor to we need to hit exact numbers.

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This is beer, not splitting sub atomic particles.
You'll be fine....

If you've heard the latest from Palmer about IBU's you'll understand how much of a crapshoot it is...

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March 20, 2008 - What Is an IBU . . . Really?
John Palmer, author of How to Brew, shares information from a conference that challenged his concept of what defines an International Bitterness Unit (IBU).
http://media.libsyn.com/media/basicbrewing/bbr03-20-08ibu.mp3
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:29 AM   #10
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All the Northern Brewer extract kits (this was not one) give hop schedules for partial boil, in the instructions they say to reduce the bittering hops by 25-50% when doing a full boil...

Anyways - Thanks for the help guys. I pulled the wort off the flame 10 minutes early. Not sure if that will do anything. I left everything else the same... I'll drink it in any case...

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