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Old 11-22-2012, 04:36 PM   #11
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What happens with too much hop? Too little hop?

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Old 11-22-2012, 05:29 PM   #12
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What happens with too much hop? Too little hop?
The beer will be unbalanced. It may taste too sweet or too bitter for your tastes. I made a brown ale that I think is unbalanced with too little hops but my son thinks it is great. I've had IPAs that I think are too bitter but some people really go for them. No sure answer to this question.
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:17 AM   #13
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Okay... after finishing off my Mr. Beer bottling for the canned stuff from Mr Beer... tonight was brew night.

I ended up steeping 35-36 ozs (not weighed... didnt have a scale) of Caramel 60L.

Steeped for 30 mins.
Strained Grain.
Then added 1/2 ounce of Kent Goldings AA.
Boiled for 60 mins.
Removed Hop ball and strained again.
Added 3.5 lbs of Briess Amber Ale.
Added 8 ounces of sucrose mixed with warm water.
Chilled wort.
Mixed with cool water in my Mr. Beer barrel.
Ended up using a whole vile of WL English Ale Yeast at 75 degrees.

Now she is fermenting... lets see what happens.

It looked thick and syrupy... can't wait for my coca-cola.

Im gonna let it sit for 2 weeks before bottling.

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Okay... after finishing off my Mr. Beer bottling for the canned stuff from Mr Beer... tonight was brew night.

I ended up steeping 35-36 ozs (not weighed... didnt have a scale) of Caramel 60L.

Steeped for 30 mins.
Strained Grain.
Then added 1/2 ounce of Kent Goldings AA.
Boiled for 60 mins.
Removed Hop ball and strained again.
Added 3.5 cups of Briess Amber Ale.
Chilled wort.
Mixed with cool water in my Mr. Beer barrel.
Ended up using a whole vile of WL English Ale Yeast at 75 degrees.

Now she is fermenting... lets see what happens.

It looked thick and syrupy... can't wait for my coca-cola.

Im gonna let it sit for 2 weeks before bottling.
I wish you would have run that recipe past us before committing it to the brew pot as I would have suggested 4 to 6 ounces of the Caramel 60 but you will have beer from this and it will taste....um...interesting.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:18 PM   #15
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The recipe said steep 2 lbs total of grain. Through my google ventures I found that 3-4 cups equals 1 lb of crushed grains depending on the weight space between the grain. So I added 4 1/2 cups anyway... :-)

I should have used a Pilsen base vs the Amber Malt... this will be an interesting science project to say the least.

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Let us know how it turns out. If it is good, I may have to try it. If it turns out bad, it will be a lesson for a bunch of people.

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That's where something like Extra Light DME/LME (Dry/Liquid Malt Extract) would come in handy. You'd still want to adjust your hop additions slightly to accommodate the malt addition depending on weight used.
Corrent. Amber LME has crystal malt in it (that's what makes it "amber") and then the crystal malt from the steeping grains means that the crystal malt is basically doubled. It was on the high side as it was, and adding the amber LME means a sweet crystal-heavy beer.

I suggest always using pale or light or extra light extract and getting color and flavor from the grains. That's how the all-grain brewers do it, too. Using a light base grain for the base malt, and then adding specialty grains to get the color and flavor right in a recipe.

Also, a little kitchen scale is really important as when you bottle you'll use 4-5 ounces of corn sugar, and the LME/DME needs to be weighed by the ounce and pound and not "cups".
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Corrent. Amber LME has crystal malt in it (that's what makes it "amber") and then the crystal malt from the steeping grains means that the crystal malt is basically doubled. It was on the high side as it was, and adding the amber LME means a sweet crystal-heavy beer.

I suggest always using pale or light or extra light extract and getting color and flavor from the grains. That's how the all-grain brewers do it, too. Using a light base grain for the base malt, and then adding specialty grains to get the color and flavor right in a recipe.

Also, a little kitchen scale is really important as when you bottle you'll use 4-5 ounces of corn sugar, and the LME/DME needs to be weighed by the ounce and pound and not "cups".
I hear and agree with what you say.

As I said earlier, I am doing this recipe first.

Then in 2 weeks I will use the Pilsen LME... and get a scale... didnt have one and didnt want to wait.

I'll save a bottle and do a taste test with each one.

Then, I may do a third batch using a little more hop with which ever variant I like.

The one good thing about the small Mr. Beer kit os I can try a bunch of smaller batches to experiment with.
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I can't wait any longer... its bottled and hopefully ready to taste by Chritsmas

Maybe I will sneak one this week.

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So I tried my beer 1 week early.

It is only on week 3 since pitch and 1 week bottled.

Let me just start by saying that this is the best green beer I have had since the Mr. Beer kits.

I taste the caramel... it actually has a caramel aftertaste and its not sweet at all... yet. It does have a sweet hint.

Because I added 8 additional ounces of sucrose (2 gallon batch) it tastes strong.

But I had a Killians red tonight, a Sam Adams Noble Pils and then decided to try mine for the heck of it. I honest to God like mine better than both of those! (I do think the Killians is a bit skunky) And its only in week 3.

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