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ryno1ryno 11-21-2012 02:51 AM

Newbie's First non-Mr Beer Brew: Briess Final Course
 
Okay guys. I'm a newbie thanks to Mr.Beer! :mug:

It was too easy. So I decided to read and read and read about how to brew with more control. Let me just say, there are some serious beer nerds out there on the interwebs. And I mean that with the utmost respect. I'm an engineer myself.

But holy molly, there are some serious beer brewers out there and there is a ton of information to go with.

In saying all of that, I finally order me some ingredients from Midwest Supplies. My first attempt will be with Briess's recipe, "Final Course" (you can find it on their website):

Quantity Ingredient
6.6 lbs Briess CBW Pilsen LME
0.75 lbs Briess Caramel Malt 40L
0.5 lbs Briess Caramel Malt 60L
0.25 lbs Briess Caramel Malt 120L
0.5 lbs Briess Chocolate Malt
1.25 oz East Kent Golding (5.0 AA) 60 minute boil time
1 vial WLP002 English Ale Yeast

Brewing Procedures:
1. Steep crushed grains at 160 170F for 30 minutes.
2. Remove grains.
3. Bring to boil.
4. Add East Kent Golding Hops.
5. Boil 60 minutes.
6. Cool and pitch WLP002 English Ale Yeast.

Fermentation:
Primary: 14 Days 65 68F
Secondary: 14 Days 35F

ryno1ryno 11-21-2012 03:00 AM

Okay, I couldn't get all of the ingredients exactly. So I did what anyone else would do, deviate from the recipe and make my own. :drunk:

Here is my alteration:

6 lbs Briess Amber LME
2 lbs Briess Caramel Malt 60L
1.25 oz Kent Goldings
1 vial WL002 English Ale Yeast

The big difference is I am noy using a Pilsen LME base, but rather an Amber for the base.

I would like to hear the horror stories about using too much Amber (Carmel 60L) in a brew.

But, of course, as any stubborn human brewer, I'm gonna try it anyway and let you know what actually happened.

I plan to make 2 gallon batches since my Mr. Beer is only 2 gallons per... so I can change it up the second time. I am looking for ideas as well.

Should I try to order a lighter base, Pilsner LME, in order to bring down the sweetness?

Could I just not use the LME (or use less) and perhaps use more malt?

You are more than welcome to confuse me to no end.

Thanks for reading! I am sure I will be addicted for now on as I pretty much am tired of the beer offered in my grocery store. I need my own set of 'go to' recipes once and for all.

RM-MN 11-21-2012 12:39 PM

When you brew an extract recipe you are looking for the correct mix of fermentables and unfermentable malt sugars like you would get from Crystal malts. It really doesn't matter whether they come from liquid malt extract or dry malt extract, it just that usually the liquid is a bit cheaper since it doesn't have to be dried all the way. Lots of recipes have you mix liquid and dry malt extract as the liquid comes in a container with a specific amount and when you need just a little more it is easier to add the small amount of dry which can be packaged easier.

tmoney645 11-21-2012 03:10 PM

Looks like a winner to me, you will be making beer! I really like crystal 60, good caramel flavor, really makes a malty beer stand out. I recommend using a beer calc program to help you prototype your recipes. Hopville.com is pretty easy to use and web based. Here is your recipe. As far as choosing your ingredients goes, its all about what you are wanting to end up with. If you want to go for a certain style you can look up the guidelines and then use hopville to tweek the recipe until it fits. The great thing about this hobby is you will be making beer no matter what:mug:

olhoss 11-21-2012 07:24 PM

I agree with tmoney645, if you're going to work up your own recipes or scale existing recipes brewing software makes this easy!!! I use Beersmith 2 and have quickly graduated from Mr Beer to Boxed recipes to putting together my own recipes. Its easy to scale from 5 gallon recpies to 2 gal or 10 gal or whatever size you want. Also you see the effect of everything you add to color, IBU, OG, etc. Have fun with it :). Almost anything makes better beer than you buy at the store.

ryno1ryno 11-21-2012 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmoney645 (Post 4609977)
Looks like a winner to me, you will be making beer! I really like crystal 60, good caramel flavor, really makes a malty beer stand out. I recommend using a beer calc program to help you prototype your recipes. Hopville.com is pretty easy to use and web based. Here is your recipe. As far as choosing your ingredients goes, its all about what you are wanting to end up with. If you want to go for a certain style you can look up the guidelines and then use hopville to tweek the recipe until it fits. The great thing about this hobby is you will be making beer no matter what:mug:

Man, thanks a lot for that calculator AND doing it for my recipe! Much appreciated.

I figure I will do a 2.5 gallon batch (Mr. Beer) with this recipe. Then do another 2.5 with the pilsner LME. By then, I think I will have an idea of how much I will alter it with other special grains to tweak the flavor.

ryno1ryno 11-21-2012 09:32 PM

Question. Is there a low profile base, something that hardly has taste, that can help boost the alcohol content without ruining taste?

tmoney645 11-21-2012 09:43 PM

You can add corn sugar to boost ABV without changing flavor, but you have to make sure that your fermentables are at minimum 2/3 malt to 1/3 sugar. Too much sugar and you get start to get cider flavors. I would just use some plain light DME though, it will get you more ABV without drying out your beer.

jeffd10 11-21-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryno1ryno (Post 4611200)
Question. Is there a low profile base, something that hardly has taste, that can help boost the alcohol content without ruining taste?

R1R,

I think sugar would do this, or DME ...but then again that messes with the rest of the recipe...

Ogri 11-22-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryno1ryno (Post 4611200)
Question. Is there a low profile base, something that hardly has taste, that can help boost the alcohol content without ruining taste?

That's where something like Extra Light DME/LME (Dry/Liquid Malt Extract) would come in handy. You'd still want to adjust your hop additions slightly to accommodate the malt addition depending on weight used.


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