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Old 01-05-2012, 11:19 PM   #1
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Hi I have been wanting to try a recipe with some southern hemisphere hops for a while and came up with this amber ale. It is for a 5 gallon batch with a 3 gallon partial boil.

6.25 lbs. Light DME
9.00 oz. Caraaroma
9.00 oz. Crystal 60L

0.50 oz. Galaxy (13%) 60min
1.00 oz. Nelson Sauvin (12%) 15min
1.50 oz. Nelson Sauvin (12%) 5min
1.00 oz. Galaxy (13%) 5min
1.50 oz. Galaxy dry hop
1.50 oz. Nelson Sauvin dry hop

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I am mostly just not sure about whether I am over using the Nelson as I have heard it can become overbearing quite easily. Any advice or tips would be awesome thanks!


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Old 01-06-2012, 03:31 PM   #2
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If you're doing 3 gallons this looks more like an IPA without enough bittering hop. I wouldn't worry about the nelson though it's just there in the flavor stage of the boil.
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+1 on the bittering hops. Scale back a hair on the 15 min addition and triple the 60 minute. That looks like a great beer then!
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I see what you guys are saying about the lack of a 60 minute addition. I did a measurement with my equipment and realized I can fit a 4 gallon boil in there so I tweaked the additions a bit with the increased utilization. I want to keep the total IBU's at about 40 (I want a solid balance between the hops and the malt presence), so i increased the the 60 minute addition to provide 20 IBU's and then the 15 and 5 minute additions provide 10 a piece. Is that a little better of a ratio or should I scale it even more towards the 60 minute addition?
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Go higher on the 60 min addition and ignore the IBU contributed by the later additions it's mostly flavor oils. I'm not an expert on the isomerization thing but for what you're doing those IBUs are negligible.
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My first experience with NS and Galaxy is with Surf Brewery's "Southern Swell"

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It was their best brew IMHO. The aroma from the IPA was what I would call "tropical and/or "pretty."

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Thanks for all the help. I have tweaked it again to a point where I like it and it's really good to know about the late addition IBU's as this is my first hop forward beer. My next question would be whether the dry hop amounts are too high or not?
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I think you're ok for an amber
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nothing against it, but thats awfully highly hopped for an amber. I think it'll be great, but its like twice as much late hops as an amber should have.
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I am going for a highly hopped amber with this recipe as i wanted to use my southern hemisphere hops in something other than an IPA. I just felt like experimenting a bit with the more prominent malt in an amber when paired with the tropical notes of both hop varieties. I have tweaked the recipe so it is not as late hop dominant as the original one and measured the IBU's iusing average instead of tinseth as it seems to be more accurate for my system and it came out right around 40 for the new recipe so i'm just gonna rock and roll and see how it ends up. I will update when it is all finished. Thanks again for all the suggestions and help!


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