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Old 03-14-2012, 02:39 PM   #1
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Default My Brew is good, but something is off... can you help?

I recently brewed a clone of Dogfish Head Shelter Pale Ale, and it came out ok. It's certainly not bad, but there is just something missing. Is it mouthfeel, I'm not sure. I wouldn't describe it as body, but that's close. It almost tastes a little watery, a little thin. It seems to be adequately carbonated. The batch was bottle conditioned with priming sugar, and kept in a cool dry place for the past two weeks. What happened, what can I change in my next batch, or am I crazy?

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Brewed: 2/3/12
Bottled: 2/27/12
First Tasting: 3/13/12

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Dogfish Head Brewing Co. Shelter Pale Ale clone
5 gallons/ 19 L, extract with grain; OG = 1.052 FG = 1.013; IBU = 30 SRM = 9 ABV = 5.0 %

Ingredients:

6.6 lbs. (3.0 kg) Briess light, unhopped, malt extract
7.0 oz. (198 g) light dried malt extract
6.0 oz. (170 g) crystal malt (120 °L)
2.0 oz. (57 g) amber malt (35 ºL) (substitute dark Munich or carastan if needed)
1⁄2 tsp. Irish moss (15 min.)
8 AAU Warrior hops (60 min.) (0.5 oz./ 14 g of 16% alpha acid)
2.75 AAU Glacier hops (10 min.) (0.5 oz./ 14 g of 5.5% alpha acid)
6.5 AAU Simcoe hops (0 min.) (0.5 oz./ 14 g of 13% alpha acid)
Wyeast 1187 (Ringwood Ale) yeast
0.75 cup (150g) corn sugar (for priming)



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Old 03-14-2012, 02:44 PM   #2
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Im guessing with only two weeks in the bottles, and you keeping them in a cool place, that your carbonation isnt right. That can change the taste and feel of a beer alot. You should have them at about 70 degrees for at least 3 weeks.



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By cool, I guess I meant room temperature in my closet. Which is about 66 degrees. Sorry for the misnomer.

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You need more time at that temp. Read this.

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Old 03-14-2012, 03:19 PM   #5
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It does seem like it needs more carbonation. Those lower temps will def take another 2 weeks or so,ime.
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:26 PM   #6
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You need more time at that temp. Read this.
Great post! Thanks for the advice! I'll check back in 2 weeks.
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:56 AM   #7
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I will agree on 3 weeks @ 70. Most of my beers have been perfectly drinkable at 2 weeks, lighter beers even one week (I get antsy!) but they get better near 3 or so. My St. Paul Porter extract kit I brewed last may took about 2-3 months before it really started tasting good and had OK head/retention. Now, 9 months later, its really really good, and pours with a nice dark tan head and has beautiful lacing down the glass.

On the other hand, I have a Nukey Brown that is off tasting still and was bottled in Oct, and has zero head after about 20 seconds in the glass. I keep drinking it here and there because its not THAT bad, and I dont wanna dump. I made mistakes on that beer, ones I won't make again (meaning I will no longer brew if I feel I might be rushed...)

Give it time. My Pale ale was almost IPA tasting until it had a month in the bottle, then it was yummy.

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Just throwing this out.

One of my first brews seems very watered down even though it was a kit that was fool proof.

The one thing I learned and I STILL do not know if this is true is that that batch I had a weak boil. It's the only time I have that kind of mouth feel.

Just sayin

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Just throwing this out.

One of my first brews seems very watered down even though it was a kit that was fool proof.

The one thing I learned and I STILL do not know if this is true is that that batch I had a weak boil. It's the only time I have that kind of mouth feel.

Just sayin
That is a very interesting take. During the boil, we were doing a 2.5 gallon boil, we had an issue with the size of the brew kettle and had to turn down the heat; from a vigorous boil, to a less intense boil. It was still 210F and was definitely boiling, but was more gentle then violent.

Anyone have any experience with the nature of the boil and if/how it can affect mouthfeel, or of the beer? Is this a question for a new thread?
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My first two beers had more gentle boils. Hope they dont turn out thin.



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