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Old 06-08-2009, 02:42 AM   #1
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Anyone have an online source for Maris Otter DME? I've searched the forums and the net, but all I can find is LME.

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Old 06-08-2009, 03:11 AM   #2
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Is there such a product?

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I've used the Maris LME from Williams. Why do you need dry?

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Let me expand the question a bit. I'm looking for some ingredients for an English Pale Ale. I would like to use British ingredients (extract, crystal, maybe some other specialty grains), but I'm having trouble finding a source.

Any ideas?

I'm kind confused since most homebrew stores sell ESB kits, but don't carry the British ingredients. Am I being too picky? Would I be that far off if I used Muntons extract and American crystal?

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Is there such a product?
I'm beginning to think there's not.

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I've used the Maris LME from Williams. Why do you need dry?
I saw that. I prefer DME since it has a longer shelf life. If the LME is fresh, it's fine, but you need to know your HBS. It's not a strong preference though.
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Munton's is a British brand, and it's possible their extract includes Maris Otter, although I'd guess not. The big online vendors all seem to have Simpson's crystal, which is British. Still, for authenticity, I'd say it's important to use English hops and yeast that English extract.

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Thanks for the help. I think I'll go with the Munton's. Midwest has that and some Simpson's crystal. Should be good.

One question regarding the Munton's spraymalt. It says in their knowledge base that you should use their special yeast with their spraymalt because of the complex sugars in the extract. Here's the exact Q & A:
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Q: Hello,
What is your opinion on adding 3lbs of plain extra light spray malt extract to your American Light style beer kit instead of using sugar?

A: I agree that this would be a good addition to your beer as it will add body and flavour to your final beer.
However you will need to use our premium gold yeast to help ferment the higher level of complex sugars when using the spraymalt.
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That just sounds absurd to me. Tell me that my instincts are right and that their malt is really no more special than any other malt and their yeast is really no more special than any other yeast.

I feel a bit silly for asking.

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They just want people to buy their yeast, methinks.

I've used a bunch of Munton's DME in past batches, and my Wyeast, White Labs yeast, and cultured from beer bottle yeast, all found it as tasty as any other malt.

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I've used a bunch of Munton's DME in past batches, and my Wyeast, White Labs yeast, and cultured from beer bottle yeast, all found it as tasty as any other malt.
You haven't experienced any high terminal gravities due to using inferior yeast?
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That just sounds absurd to me. Tell me that my instincts are right and that their malt is really no more special than any other malt and their yeast is really no more special than any other yeast.

Munton's malt might be no more special than other malts, but it's more complex that sugar or adjuncts. That's the comparison.

Munton's regular dry yeast is, arguably, worse than others. It doesn't work that well on all-malt beer. A lot of people have ragged on it here in the past.

If you want, go with Safale 04 or something.
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