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Old 12-20-2013, 02:54 PM   #1
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Hat are the pros and cons of LME vs DME? Is one better than the other? I have a European Pilsner kit from defalcos.com and wondering if I should swap the LME for DME or use a bit if both as the LME has been stored for about 4 months and found it in the process of moving. Planning on brewing this weekend? Any suggestions?

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Old 12-20-2013, 03:23 PM   #2
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DME stays fresh longer but many feel that fresh LME gives better flavor. How was the LME stored? If it was just sitting in a box you might consider swapping it for something fresher. It's really hard to hide off flavors in a pilsner! You could always use it to make a starter or toss it in a beer with bigger flavors that can cover any negative effects from staling, like a stout, porter, Barleywine, or big ass IPA.

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The LME is vacume sealed in plastic and then out in a box and under a kitchen cabinet. If I just toss the LME what would be a good new one to buy from the LBS for this type of beer?

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Old 12-20-2013, 03:48 PM   #4
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If I used a pilsner DME I have how much do I need for a 5g batch? (Never brewed with DME)

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Old 12-20-2013, 03:57 PM   #5
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IMO: LME tends to be geared more for particular styles with specialty grain extracts in it. LME can even come pre-hopped. DME is more base malt centered and you usually want to pick up some specialty grains to steep.

DME stores better, if kept dry. A freezer is best. LME doesn't store at all once opened and will eventually go stale if left on a shelf.

When I extract brewed, I'd choose extra light DME to get the ABV I wanted and used steeping grains to get the color and flavor I wanted.

The ratio is about 1.25 LME = 1 DME.

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Old 12-20-2013, 04:01 PM   #6
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I wouldn't toss it, especially if vac sealed. I'd just use it in a different beer or for starters. That said I have brewed with some old ass LME and the beer was OK...not great, but OK! In the future store LME in the fridge if you know it's going to sit around longer than a few weeks. And if you are buying fresh, you could buy fresh LME. If you want to use DME then Google conversion rates...there's all kinds of info out there. Quick search found this--
http://www.jaysbrewing.com/2011/11/1...dme-lme-grain/

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Old 12-21-2013, 01:34 AM   #7
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Vacuum sealed, it will be fine. LME does darken with time, but is OK to use for a year or more without problems.

Of you really want to brew to style, you need fresh pilsner LME or DME or a pilsner (both are exactly the sane - DME is basically dried LME). However, you also need a lager yeast and fridge if you want to brew to a pisner to style.

I suspect you are just starting out, I'd recommend using what you have. It will still make good beer.

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Old 12-21-2013, 02:42 AM   #8
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I think you'll be fine with what you have. Is the LME in a Mylar bag by chance ? Like what Moorbeer sells ? If so your good to go. They have hands down the best packaging I've seen or used to date.

Although I prefer LME "99% I use is ultra light". I do use 1/2 to a cup of light DME to adjust for the non fermentable sugars.

Using all DME is a PitA .

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