levitation? - Page 2

Couevas · 07-19-2008, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor the Mighty

yeah i ordered 8 cases of it *see what i did there?* so that i can hold on to a case for myself and sell the rest. stone is by far the coolest vendor to work with!!!

damn thanks man ill get on this as soon as i have money.

So, I take it you will try it? Glad I could help.
You say they are the coolest "vendor"? What kind of business do you have to have them as a vendor?

Also, you happen to have any 05, or earlier Verticals around? I need to get my hands on one of each for 121212.

Thor the Mighty · 07-19-2008, 04:11 AM

yeah im definately going to try that out man thanks for the numbers.

i work for whole foods as their beer specialist at one of their locations and by no means am i a beer GURU, i just have a huge passion for beer, and know every beer in the store so they gave me a raise and the title. woot.

out of all the vendors, stone is the only consistant, time saving and available source for beer that i deal with. They recently stopped supplying ruination and levitation, we get that through someone else now, but beyond that they have a bunch of san diego/san marcos micro brew beers that are available. tight stuff.

i dont happen to have any vertical epic ales. the 888 is coming in next month and thats the only stuff i can get. everything else is long gone. sorry bruh

V10jay · 09-02-2008, 01:26 AM

So any feedback on this? I'm wanting to try to brew a batch and would like to try a Levitation clone. Were you close?

surferdrew · 02-07-2010, 05:51 AM

i'll be giving this recipe a go tomorrow...thanks for the head start!

I'm going to follow the the above recipe exactly however I'm going to dry hop the last addition of Amarillo and use WL005 (English Ale) rather than the WL001.

**dunnright00** · 02-07-2010, 06:01 AM

I don't know if they post the recipes or not, but I know that the "Can You Brew it?" show attempted this one recently. They got a lot of info from Mitch Steele, but I think the ultimate conclusion was "Not Cloned".

EricCSU · 02-07-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dunnright00

I don't know if they post the recipes or not, but I know that the "Can You Brew it?" show attempted this one recently. They got a lot of info from Mitch Steele, but I think the ultimate conclusion was "Not Cloned".

It was actually voted "cloned" by a vote of 4-0.

The following is the exact recipe given on the show:

"6 gallon batch
70% efficiency
Raeger formula

4.25kg British pale
0.5kg crystal 75
0.25kg crystal 150
20g black patent

Mash at 157

14g Columbus 90min
29g amarillo 30min
33g crystal 20min
11g simcoe 20min
42g amarillo dry hop

WLP007 fermented at 67 degrees

Finish at 3.2 plato"

The following is a conversion to US measurements in all grain (and swapped out crystal 75 or 150 for 60/90/120 because I can't get C-75 or C-120 locally and don't want to order the grains online):

Style: American Amber Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.23 gal
Estimated OG: 1.048 SG
Estimated Color: 17.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 61.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
9 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 84.86 %
9.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.87 %
9.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 90L (90.0 SRM) Grain 4.87 %
9.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 4.87 %
1.0 oz Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 0.52 %
14.00 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (90 min) Hops 23.3 IBU
42.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
28.30 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (30 min) Hops 20.6 IBU
11.00 gm Simcoe [13.00 %] (20 min) Hops 9.6 IBU
33.00 gm Crystal [3.50 %] (20 min) Hops 7.8 IBU
1 Pkgs Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) [StarYeast-Ale

The problem with the recipe above is that it is 61 IBU and Levitation is 44 IBU. This could be because of differences in AA% of the hops, so feel free to alter the hop bill accordingly.

Here is an extract conversion with the right amount of IBUs (for the hops I have at home of course). This is based on a full wort boil...if you are doing a partial boil, let me know the volume and I can alter the recipe accordingly.

Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.23 gal
Estimated OG: 1.048 SG
Estimated Color: 17.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 44.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: - %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
8 lbs 0.1 oz Extra Pale Liquid Extract (3.0 SRM) Extract 81.73 %
9.2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.88 %
9.2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 90L (90.0 SRM) Grain 5.88 %
9.2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 5.88 %
1.0 oz Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 0.63 %
10.05 gm Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (90 min) Hops 16.7 IBU
42.00 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
20.31 gm Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (30 min) Hops 14.8 IBU
7.89 gm Simcoe [13.00 %] (20 min) Hops 6.9 IBU
23.68 gm Crystal [3.50 %] (20 min) Hops 5.6 IBU
1 Pkgs Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) [StarYeast-Ale

**jkarp** · 02-07-2010, 12:08 PM

I'll be the token "hater" for the thread. Neighbor and I brewed up several good milds and bitters over the Winter. I picked up a sixer of Levitation last weekend after listening to Can You Brew It and I must say, it's the most unbalanced mild I've ever tasted. Waaay too hoppy for the style.

EricCSU · 02-07-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jkarp

I'll be the token "hater" for the thread. Neighbor and I brewed up several good milds and bitters over the Winter. I picked up a sixer of Levitation last weekend after listening to Can You Brew It and I must say, it's the most unbalanced mild I've ever tasted. Waaay too hoppy for the style.

At 4.5% and 44IBU, I don't think it is supposed to be a bitter or mild.

Eric

**jkarp** · 02-07-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EricCSU

At 4.5% and 44IBU, I don't think it is supposed to be a bitter or mild.

Eric

Funny, we had the same discussion, on the mild at least. Where does mild begin/end? Clearly, Stone markets Levitation on its "sessionability" and low-alcohol content. There are so few examples available here in the States, we're arguably poor judges of the style. The winner of last year's Great British Beer Festival was a 4.4% mild...

EricCSU · 02-07-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jkarp

Funny, we had the same discussion, on the mild at least. Where does mild begin/end? Clearly, Stone markets Levitation on its "sessionability" and low-alcohol content. There are so few examples available here in the States, we're arguably poor judges of the style. The winner of last year's Great British Beer Festival was a 4.4% mild...

It seems like the "sessionability" is relative to the rest of the line up. I have a few session recipes I created and I like, and they are all 3.5-4.1%, so they are a little bit lower. Most are just a scaled down version of a bigger beer. I have never actually had the Stone Levitation; it is not distributed here. It almost seems like a scaled down IPA, which is definitely an interesting concept. How do you make a beer that has complex, intense hop aroma that is low(er) in alcohol?

I just made an "scaled down APA" that is on the low end of ABV at 4.2% but it has a nice hop aroma and flavor with mostly late addition hops. I have never used Amarillo, so I am still unsure about how it meshes with Cascade and Centennial. But the beer is still green, so I will wait a couple of weeks and get a few other opinions before I decide on any alterations.

So true about milds. I have never had a mild, but I plan on brewing one because it sounds like a style I would enjoy. I will probably brew a pale mild in the summer and a traditional mild in the fall (all two weeks of fall here in Austin

Eric