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Old 01-07-2012, 04:08 AM   #1
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Default Your thoughts needed for my knuckle sandwich II IPA clone recipe

9 lbs LME
2 pounds corn sugar
1.5lbs crystal 15
.5 lbs crystal 40

Simcoe 13% 1.000 oz Boil 30.000 min Pellet 25.4
Simcoe 13% 1.000 oz Boil 5.000 min Pellet 6.6
Amarillo 10% 1.000 oz Boil 30.000 min Pellet 18.6
Amarillo 10% 1.000 oz Boil 5.000 min Pellet 4.8
Centennial 10% 0.500 oz DH 0.000 s Pellet 0.0
Simcoe 13% 0.500 oz DH 0.000 s Pellet 0.0

Im shooting for Knuckle sandwich clone I got the hop shedule from another thread.

The corn sugar idea comes from a guy I met that worked at bootleggers for a year or so. He said they use a butt ton of corn sugar and crystal .
Does anyone see anything horribly wrong with this? its my first not using a kit :P Thanks One more thing, I wont be using pellet Ill be using fresh Hops. Thanks for the input!

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Old 01-07-2012, 03:16 PM   #2
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Just looking for someone to let me know of it looks like absolute S#!t or it looks drinkable Anyone?

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Old 01-07-2012, 05:05 PM   #3
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I have only just begun upping my levels of crystal and corn/cane sugar in my beers, but with that being said, I think it looks like it should work.

I would maybe play with beercalculus a little just to see if you may need more extract with that level of corn sugar. I just did an IPA with 9 # of LME and used 1/2# of sugar and it seems nice to me. Or another idea would be to sub some of your Crystal steeping grains for some Munich Malt Extract.

Also, I have had a revelation with clean bittering hops like Magnum or Horizon for bitterness. I used to use some High or Medium Alpha Hops for IPA's and would get green flavors (like grass) that tend to fade with a little bottle aging, but stick around when the beer is fresh. Some have said that Simcoe can give off aromas/flavors if used at the 60 Min mark (others have said the opposite). I have never used it, so try it and see.

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Old 01-07-2012, 05:17 PM   #4
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Thanks Trigger for the reply! Good advice.

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Old 01-07-2012, 09:33 PM   #5
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I'm still pretty new to brewing but fwiw it looks really light on the hops. It'll be a sugar bomb being that heavy on the crystal and light on hops.

I tried to find how many IBU's are in knuckle sandwich to get a better idea of how much hops you should use but I couldn't find it. I've never had Knuckle Sandwich but I would guess you need 2 almost 3 times the amount of hops you have listed.

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Old 01-07-2012, 10:02 PM   #6
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Dumptruck, I've gone on sites where they say it's 53 ibu's and others that say it's 100+. I sent bootleggers an email to see if they could stir me in the right direction. We'll see..

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Found a calculator and I got it at 68.s IBU'S

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Okay, you're closer than I thought. I took a look at a few other DIPA's on other brewery's websites to see how many IBU's they have listed.

Avery Dugana 93 ibu's
Sierra Nevada Hoptimum 100 ibu's
Pliny the Elder 100 ibu's
Heady Topper 120 ibu's

Hopefully they'll get back to you on it.

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Are you adding all the extract at the beginning of the boil? If you add half at the beginning, and half in the last 15 minutes, you will get higher IBUs with the same hopping schedule.

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Ya weird Im going to do a lil at the beginning and most at the end. also a full boil will get me in the 98 IBU range. I m super excited! Doing this tonight. Thanks for your help

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