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Old 12-04-2011, 02:53 PM   #11
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Cool, thanks. I'll let you know how it comes out. Gonna brew this afternoon.

Happy brewing!

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Old 01-09-2012, 10:43 PM   #12
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so how did it turn out?


I am brewing this recipe again Saturday, but changing the hops around this time

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Old 01-10-2012, 02:18 AM   #13
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Well, the schedule got a bit messed up. Being only my second brew I hadn't thought to schedule out racking, bottling, etc. from when brew day was. And of course racking to secondary was supposed to happen when we were gone. So it ended up in primary for almost 2.5 weeks, then I racked it to secondary and dry hopped it for about 10 days or so (I'd have to look at the notes). Long story short I just bottled it on Wed. Out of primary it wasn't very good at tall. Quite bitter but with very little flavor. Tasted like the stout I made but WAY overhopped. Then after dry-hopping in secondary it was pretty good. Still quite hoppy but with some more nice aromatic hops and hoppy flavor as opposed to just bitter. And it was a bit sweet. Not super roasted (chocolate malt vs. black patent I would assume). I am desperate to try a bottle but I think I'll make myself wait at least a week and then try one of the "sediment" bottles (that's how I always label the last few that get the extra gunk. I'll try to remember to let you know in a few days how it's coming along. And then in a few weeks when it's really ready I'll give another update. But I think it's too early to say if the modifications helped or hurt the brew.

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Old 01-11-2012, 01:57 AM   #14
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so how did it turn out?
Well, I was getting antsy anyway and then you went and reminded me of it.

So, I cracked one open tonight. It was pretty good, especially for being so young. It lacks balance and the other flavors don't come through very well over the hops. But I'm hoping it will even out over time. I liked the hop character. It was plenty bitter for me (though I've had more bitter). I think the dry hopping saved this beer. It was lousy after primary and the dry hopped character is by far the most distinct flavor. The "blackness" doesn't come through a lot, though I imagine that has a lot to do with using chocolate malt instead of black patent. It has a sweetness, which I like. And then a character that's hard to describe. Almost a sour taste. My only other beer, a stout had this too, so I suspect it has something to do with my methods more than the recipe. Perhaps it's even from my first beer as the fermenter still had an odor.

Here's the hop schedule I ended up using (less and different hops):

1 oz Nugget at 60
1 oz Summit at 60
1 oz Magnum at 30
.5 oz Chinook at 10
.5 oz Chinook at flameout
1 oz Cascade dry hopped

This is only my second brew, so I can't say if the changes were good or bad, but I tried to tell you what it tastes like and let you decide. For me, this is plenty of hops. I like hoppy beers, but I'm not a hophead. So, maybe you'd prefer more and maybe the black patent justifies more hops to balance it out. If I did it again I'd stick to something similar to the above hop schedule.

Hope that's helpful. I'll let you know how it is in another 2 weeks and I'd be curious to hear what modifications you make and how it turns out.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:00 AM   #15
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Sorry the first Chinook was at 20, not 10.

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Old 01-13-2012, 08:59 PM   #16
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fellow brewers of the juice of the gods...after almost a year of brewing with great success..i am about to venture into the unknown by creating a smoky double black ipa for the first time..my question is this: I have seen many recipes with various methods and I cant get my head in the right direction with adding dme or lme to the wort..for this type of brew..should I add this at the start or end of the boil and why.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:37 PM   #17
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To the best of my knowledge LME and DME are fairly exchangeable (after taking into account that DME is more potent per pound than LME)... if you can't get fresh LME use DME. If you wait until flameout (or a few minutes before) to add the rest of your extract you'll decrease the gravity of your boil, which increases hop utilization. Higher hop utilization = hopier beer, which is something you're looking for in an IPA

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Old 01-13-2012, 10:08 PM   #18
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If you wait until flameout (or a few minutes before) to add the rest of your extract you'll decrease the gravity of your boil, which increases hop utilization. Higher hop utilization = hopier beer, which is something you're looking for in an IPA
This is an important point to consider. I just charged blindly into remman4's recipe without taking the time to understand what a late addition of extract (or at flameout as with this recipe) does. So far it seems to have turned out well. But after the brew when I used a calculator to est the gravity and ibus I was shocked to see that the late addition took my ibus from around 90 to more like 180. And that site defined late addition as at 10-15 min, not at flameout as I did it. Granted the recipe did say 100+ ibus , but I guess I didn't know what i was getting myself into. That said so far the flavor is pretty good. Maybe a bit too much bittering hops for my taste, but I'm not a pure hophead either. I like hops, but probably more on the aromatic side. For what it's worth.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:09 PM   #19
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How much LME/DME are you using in total for your recipe?

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Old 01-29-2012, 01:29 PM   #20
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I plan on 6 pounds dme and 2 of lme in the recipe.

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