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SloTimes 11-06-2011 10:15 PM

Help with/critique a Black IPA Extract recipe??
Hey guys,

I'm new to making my own recipes and was wondering if you could help me out with my Black IPA recipe. Any critique would be greatly appreciated!

Amt Name
7 lbs Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM)
1 lbs Amber Liquid Extract (12.5 SRM)
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM)
12.0 oz Carafa III (525.0 SRM)
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 3.0 days)
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35.49 ml]

BeerSmith says it should have a 1.070 OG, 60 IBUs, 32 SRM, and 7.2% ABV.

Let me know what you think.


seatbelt123 11-07-2011 12:07 AM

I just sampled my first draft of my CDA using the recipe in this thread:

One of my comments was that 10% Carafa III (debittered) was too much (as many have said). I'm not sure if your partial mash recipe equates to that but it's worth keeping in mind.

SloTimes 11-07-2011 05:51 AM

Thanks for the input!

I checked out the percentage and it worked out to 7.9% which, thanks to your thread, make me think it might be a little high. So maybe I should drop the Carafa III down to 8oz and maybe add some CaraPils for head retention?? (which would put the Carafa at 5%)

Another thing I'm unsure about is the Hop Additions. Will dry hopping Amarillo Gold on top of Centennial and Chinook blend right? Ive heard some positive responses about dry hopping Amarillo Gold in IPAs but I've never used it.

remman4 11-07-2011 02:16 PM

I can get my exact recipe once I am at my home computer, but that does seem like a lot of Carafa III

I used Carafa III, chocolate malt, roasted barley, 60L crystal, and another grain in mine

I did 1 oz nugget and .75 oz home grown magnum for 60 min, and then my hop additions were similar to yours for the 30, 15, 5, and flame out

It turned out great! I'll try to post the official recipe this evening

SloTimes 11-07-2011 08:42 PM

Thanks I'd like to have something to compare to here.

I was thinking about trying to avoid the heavy roasted coffee flavor from the roasted barley, but how did you like it in yours?

I'm getting really excited for this! Now i just need to clear out space in my ferm chamber haha

remman4 11-08-2011 11:06 PM

OK so here goes:
Steeped at ~155F for 30 mins in 2.5 gallons water
0.5 lb British Black Patent
0.5 lb Carafa III
1 lb 60L Crystal
0.5 lb 90L Crystal
0.5 lb Roasted Barley

2 lbs Dark DME 60 min boil
1 lb Amber DME at flameout
8 lbs Canadian two row LME at flameout

1.5 oz 13.9% AA Nugget 60 min
1 oz 17.4% AA Milennium 60 min
1 oz 13.1% AA Magnum 30 min (estimated AA due to being home grown!)
1 oz 6.6% AA Cascade 20 min
0.5 oz 6.6% AA Cascade at flameout
1 oz 6.6% Cascade dry hop 10 days
Final batch size 5.67 gallons
OG (est) 1.084 FG (est) 1.021
ABV: 8.1%
Color: 42 deg Lovibond
IBU 100+

It is dark and chocolatey with mild coffee undertones that are quickly balanced with a nice hop bitterness. The head is thick light tan and retention is outstanding!
It is a nicely balanced beer, but next time I think I will up the flameout hops additions to get more hop aroma

It has been a huge hit with my friends!

RunnerDude 12-02-2011 05:01 AM


That looks tasty. I might try that one. What yeast did you use? Any ale yeast ok?


remman4 12-03-2011 05:06 PM

I used two packets of Safale US05

RunnerDude 12-03-2011 07:43 PM


I had to buy ingredients yesterday for a Sunday brew day. They recommended Safale US05 (guess great minds think alike?). Anyway, they only gave me one. Do you think two is necessary given the gravity? They said one Safale or two liquid or one liquid given at least 24 hours in a starter. I opted for the Safale.

I also had to switch up a few things as they didn't have exactly what I wanted. I went chocolate malt since they were out of black patent and dialed the hops back a bit since it won't be as roasted/burnt without the black patent. Also did 1.25 of 50-60L and .25 120L on the crystal since that's what they had. We'll see how it turns out.

Thanks for the recipe.

remman4 12-04-2011 02:32 PM

Two was borderline overkill so you should be fine, I am curious to hear how the modifications come out. I bought the ingredients yesterday with slight hop schedule changes and can't wait to brew!

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