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Old 04-24-2010, 09:22 PM   #1
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Default Help with basic Imperial IPA

I'm not a fan of IPA's but I'm coming around and am definitely able to appreciate them more since I started home brewing but need some help with an Imperial IPA recipe that I want to make for SWMBO's brother, who loves IPA's. Here's what I have so far, so critique away, as I'm trying to learn about variations on the style.

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0.5 lb carapils
0.5 lb Crystal 40L

Malt Extract
9.15 lb Northern Brewer's Golden LME
1 LB Golden DME

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2 oz. Chinook Hops pellets 90 minutes
1 oz. Cascade Hops pellets 50 minutes
0.5 oz. Cascade Hops Pellets 2 minutes (aroma)
0.5 oz. Cascade Hops Pellets (Dry Hop) 7 days in secondary

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Old 04-24-2010, 09:59 PM   #2
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Hmmmmm....... you say you aren't a big fan of IPA's. Are you sure you want to start with a 100ish IBU imperial? Sounds bitter as heck lol and looks to be about 100ish IBUs at your current hop schedule.

My experience with Chinook is that it tends to provide a pretty harsh bitterness. I have never used it as a 90 minute addition (only as a 60 and some spread throughout the rest of the boil). My initial reaction seeing the 2.0 oz at 90 minutes tells me it will be pretty harsh. If you want to keep it at "imperial level" (100 IBU's) I would add less at 90 and increase your additions throughout the boil and bump up the late additions A LOT. I don't think .5 oz of cascade at 2 minutes + .5 oz dry will give you the aroma your looking for in an imperial. (this increases cost significantly unless you have bulk hops).

I'd consider maybe knocking it down to 65-75 IBU's. That should provide you with plenty of bitterness for the gravity you are at. Especially if you're not a huge fan of IPA's

Check out some of the other imperial recipes in the recipe section for some inspiration.

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You are going to want more late hopping than that. I would adjust the 90 minaddition to have the same level of bittering as you have it right now with the 90 and 50. That might mean closer to 2.5 oz of chinook at 90. Then go at least an ounce of hops at 10 minutes. Another at 0 minutes, plus at least 1 oz of dry hop.

Double IPAs are all about the hop lavor and aroma, and you can't be shy about putting the hops in. If I was going my way and had more hops, I'd go something more like this. And you don't have to use just cascade in the late hops. I'd use any combination of Cascade, Centennial, Columbus, Simcoe, Amarillo or Chinook.

90 min bittering addition
1.5 oz 15 min
1.5 oz 10 min
1.5 oz 5 min
1.5 oz 0 min
2.0 oz dry hop

It might look like a ton of hops, but that's the only way you can get that flavor and aroma. I've seen recipes that go closer to a pound of hops for a standard 5 gallons.

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Id try some Summit hops.Few months back i made a IIPA and used all summit hops(5 ozs),pretty tasty imo

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This is the type of feedback I was looking for. Like I said, I'm not a huge fan of IPA's and really don't have experience with the style, but I'm brewing this for my Brother in Law. I'm going to adjust the hop schedule as follows.

1 oz chinook 90 min
1 oz centennial 60 min
1 oz cascade 30 min
0.5 oz cascade 15 min
0.5 oz cascade 2 min
1 oz cascade for a 7 day dry hop.

I calculate this at approximately 68-70 IBU's depending on the potency of the hops. Does this look better?

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Also, I assume the rest of the recipe looks alright, considering the only objections I've seen relate to the hop schedule?

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I'd still ditch the 60 and 30 minute additions and go for more in the last 10 minutes.

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Id try some Summit hops.Few months back i made a IIPA and used all summit hops(5 ozs),pretty tasty imo
Could you share the recipe?
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Maybe I'll just move the cascade additions up to 10, 5, and 2, with a full ounce at each

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Could you share the recipe?
Sure,Extract recipe though.6 gallon recipe with starter


% LB OZ Malt or Fermentable ppg °L

92% 11 0 Light/Pale Malt Extract Syrup info 36 5
8% 1 0 Corn Syrup info 36 1


Batch size: 6.0 gallons

Original Gravity
1.072
(1.064 to 1.075)
Final Gravity
1.018
(1.016 to 1.019)
Color
7° SRM / 14° EBC
(Gold to Copper)

hops
use time oz variety form aa

boil 60 mins 1.0 Summit info pellet 18.5
boil 15 mins 2.0 Summit info pellet 18.5
boil 5 mins 0.5 Summit info pellet 18.5
boil 1 min 1.0 Summit info pellet 18.5
dry hop 7 days 0.5 Summit info pellet 18.5
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Boil: 3.5 avg gallons for 60 minutes


Bitterness
64.4 IBU / 19 HBU
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BU:GU
0.89

yeast

White Labs Dry English Ale (WLP007)


Alcohol
7.2% ABV / 6% ABW
Calories
237 per 12 oz.

boil 15 min 1 ounces Irish Moss
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