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Old 09-26-2011, 07:04 PM   #1
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Default First recipe. How does it sound?

6 lb light lme
6 lb amber lme

Steeping grains
2 lb crystal 10 L

4 oz chinook 11.6 % 90 min

1 oz cascade 6.2 % 60 min
.5 oz cascade 6.2 % 30 min
.5 oz cascade 6.2 % 5 min

3 gal boil.

2 packs safale 05

My biggest concerns are hop utilization with such a high amount of extract in the boil hence the 90 min boil time and 3 gal boil. And I'm not sure if 2 lb of steeping grains is enough to impart body and flavor with the amount of Extract I'm using. Any thoughts would be very much appreciated!

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What are you trying to achieve? This looks way overboard but I can't fully say without knowing what recipe you are brewing. 12lbs of extract seems like a really high ABV and the hops, holy crap that is a lot! Anyhow, post what you are attempting to make and we'll all go from there.


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Old 09-26-2011, 07:11 PM   #3
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I guess an Imperial ipa. I would like it to be hoppy and strong. Shooting for around 100 ibu and 9 % abv. But I really have know idea what I'm about to create!

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I used 6oz of hops in my IPA,4.5 ounces as hop bursting. The rest were dry hopped. But that much malt for a 5G batch is gunna be more like a barleywine to me. Looks like you were trying for an Imperial IPA.?! Dang,beaten to the punch again...!
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6 lb light lme
6 lb amber lme

Steeping grains
2 lb crystal 10 L

4 oz chinook 11.6 % 90 min

1 oz cascade 6.2 % 60 min
.5 oz cascade 6.2 % 30 min
.5 oz cascade 6.2 % 5 min

3 gal boil.

2 packs safale 05

My biggest concerns are hop utilization with such a high amount of extract in the boil hence the 90 min boil time and 3 gal boil. And I'm not sure if 2 lb of steeping grains is enough to impart body and flavor with the amount of Extract I'm using. Any thoughts would be very much appreciated!
This is a 5 gallon batch, yes?

Why not keep the sugar contributions simple. 12# light malt and steep C-60 instead? Also, 2# of crystal seems high, especially if it's a 5 gallon batch.

Looking at the hop adds, you're going to have a bitter beer with little flavor or aroma. Move some of the Chinook and all of the Cascades to 15 min or fewer. If you want to accentuate bitterness, you could add a t of gypsum to the boil.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:29 PM   #6
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Also planning on 2 weeks in primary, 2 weeks in secondary and 3 weeks in the bottle

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That's why I mention using hop bursting in mine. Guess I should've explained that more hughjass. good point.
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Def don't want barley wine! And I will change the hops around like you suggested. Already bought the crystal. and lme so I've got to stick with those. Though I don't need to use all of it.

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I guess an Imperial ipa. I would like it to be hoppy and strong. Shooting for around 100 ibu and 9 % abv. But I really have know idea what I'm about to create!
WAY too much crystal (and probably extract) for an IIPA. Amber extract has crystal malt in it, too, so two pounds of crystal plus whatever is in the extract is more than twice what you need.

I'd also cut some of the extract and replace it with corn sugar.

I would definitely NOT boil 90 minutes! You'll carmelize and thicken the extract. I'd go with a 60 minute boil for proper hops utilization, add use only 3 pounds of extract in the boil if it's a 3 gallon boil.

I'd definitely cut down on the bittering hops. 4 ounces of chinook is more than excessive, and there isn't any need for it.

For an IPA and/or an IIPA, you need way more late hops. A hopping schedule like this:

1.5 ounces chinook (60 minutes) to get you to 50-70 IBUs (depending on the OG)
1 ounce chinook or cascade 15 minutes
1 ounce chinook or cascade 10 minutes
1 ounce chinook or cascade 5 minutes
1 ounce chinook or cascade 0 minutes

Dryhop 2 ounces chinook or cascade

For the malt, I'd suggest using DME rather than LME as you can buy "extra light" which I really like.

10 pounds DME
1 pound corn sugar
.5 pound crystal malt (any- I like 40L)

I don't have a brewing calculator on this notebook, but I'd run this through some software. For an IIPA, I'd target an OG of 1.080 with 80+ IBUs, 60 of which come from the bittering hops. For an IPA, I'd target an OG of 1.0
60 with IBUs of 60-65 total, 45 of which would come from the bittering hops.
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Def don't want barley wine! And I will change the hops around like you suggested. Already bought the crystal. and lme so I've got to stick with those. Though I don't need to use all of it.
Well, if you're stuck with it then at least cut the crystal to .5-.75 pound instead of two pounds!
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