I have done the Innkeeper from Northern Brewer, and loved it. It is better, in my opinion, the greener it is. I also have done the bourbon barrell porter, used makers mark that had cloves, cinnamon sticks, vanilla beans and nutmeg soaking in it for over a month. Fantastic after about 8 months of conditioning. I am getting ready to do anyother batch, and age it for as long as I can stand. Also, I tried a patersbier kit that my friend made, and it was great. I think northern brewer is where he got it. Great summer beer, I might get one to brew for the summer as well.