got those hops backwards. Perle fist, then cascade
Anyway, I am doing it as I type. I steeped at 150 for 30 minutes. Then hops at the start of the boil, 60 min. Then boiled for 45 min, added extract, brought it back to boil in about 6 minutes and hopped (15 min) and (5) min
Did a 2 1/2 gal boil. It is no lighter than usual. We'll see if the hops flavor is better this way.
Its chilling right now......then aerate and pitch.