gwood

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I understand the principle of what is being discussed here (great thread by the way) but I'm a bit cloudy on the specifics in terms of adjustments to how much *ME to add and when and how much hops to add and when relative to the length of the boil.

I like hoppy beer and I'll want to get the most out of them in the future. What software are you using?

Neomich

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I tried this on my most recent batch of Belgian Wit. My last BW was a little on the sweet side for me so I added a portion of the LME at the beginning of the boil and then dumped in the rest at the end. This batch has a good amount of bitterness although it is a little much for a Belgian Wit to me. I think I put in around 25% of the total LME at the beginning. The color is much lighter than my last batch though. Maybe next time I'll do a half-and-half addition.

Both batches are very drinkable but just a little on each side of the sweet/bitter flavor profile to my taste.

I'm interested to see how my SNPA works out using this method.

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I asked this question months ago on this site and the responders said to do the 1/2 and 1/2 solution to lighten the color. I did it with my Hefe and was very happy with the results. Ever since I have been doing this with great results. I tried a 1/4 to 3/4 (last 15 min.) with my latest Belgian Wit and it looks perfect and tastes right on.
Im a little confused, are people saying to add the last portion of the *ME in the latst 15 min AFTER the 60min boil? or in the last 15min OF the 60min boil? I added mine at 45 min into the boil. One thing I have noticed doing this is that I get a 2nd hot break, somthing to watch out for.

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Neomich

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I took it to mean the last 15 minutes OF the 60 minute boil. That's what I did.

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homebrewer_99

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I turn the flame off at 45 mins and steep the rest for 15.

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<<I'm interested to see how my SNPA works out using this method.>>

I did half and half with LME on the SNPA clone i just brewed last saturday. Its fermenting now. 3.3 lbs @ the beginning of the boil, the other 3.3 lbs @ 20 min left in the boil. I'll let you know how it turns out.

I did the same thing with the Alpha King clone I brewed but it still came out a bit dark. Tastes great though. The aroma is almost spot on to a real Alpha King, the taste, while I can tell its not a real Alpha King is pretty darn close. I certainly don't mind knocking back a few.


I didn't really adjust the hops at all in the AK or the SNPA. Just did the additions as I normally would as if I had added it all at the beginning. I figure if it comes out a little bit hoppier, or a little more bitter, no big deal. I wasn't worried about hitting exact IBUs, etc. Just wanted a good enjoyable brew in the style of what I was cloning.

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IowaStateFan

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I did that but wasn't getting enough flavor from my late addition hops. I now boil for the full 60 minutes, turn out the flame and steep the rest of my extract for 15 minutes.

gwood

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This is what I was thinking of for my next batch. Sorry for the noob questions but if the late addition (post flame out) is DME will it fully disolve without the heat? Wouldn't stiring it cool it down even faster and impact how well it disolves?

Sounds like I don't need to adjust my hops if I go half and half (I'm also not technical enough to calculate how to adjust and when to add based on *ME changes...although software is something I'll have to look into)

Neomich

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This sounds like a good idea. My last batch doesn't have much hops flavor and it's probably because all that LME that was in there. I'll definitely use this on my next batch. It's a Pale Rye Ale and there's no such thing as too hoppy with that.

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homebrewer_99

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Yes, it will dissolve. Add it 1 lb at a time and dissolve before adding the next lb.

Remember, you are starting at 212F and pasteurization takes place at what 160-180F?

As for your hop adjustment check out the Hop Utilization Chart in Charlie P's TCJOHB.

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