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Super64 12-14-2010 02:36 PM

Critique - Simple Porter Recipe
 
Nothing fancy. I want to get a basic recipe down before adding coffee, honey..etc.


Batch = 5 gals
Type = Extract and Steeped Grains
Recipe Gravity = 1.055
Est. FG = 1.014
Bitterness = 34 IBU
Color = 35 SRM
ABV = 5.4%

6.6 lbs Muntons LME - Light
1.50 lbs Crystal 80L
0.50 lb Chocolate Malt
0.75 lb Black Patent Malt

1.50 oz Fuggles (UK) @ 60 minutes
0.50 oz Fuggles (UK) @ 30 minutes

English Ale Yeast - WLP002

Steep grains @ 160 for 30 minutes
Add to main boil
Add Extract
Boil until hot break
Add bittering hops at 60 min
Add flavoring hops at 30 min
No finishing hops
Cool to 80 degrees
Pitch yeast
Primary 1 week
Secondary 2 weeks
Bottle 2 weeks

cenla 12-14-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super64 (Post 2475709)
Primary 1 week
Secondary 2 weeks
Bottle 2 weeks

why go to secondary at all? it's a porter, so clarity isn't important and you're not dry hopping.

I'd say leave it in primary for 3 or 4 weeks. Then bottle and leave it for at least 2, just like you're planning.

motobrewer 12-14-2010 03:49 PM

looks decent. i agree with longer primary, my last porter took longer than one week to hit terminal

Super64 12-14-2010 03:54 PM

Thanks guys,

3 in the Primary and 2 in the bottle it is! :)

Should I use a starter on the yeast or just pitch it?

coypoo 12-14-2010 03:56 PM

1055 is close to the "threshold" for not having to make a starter. But I would, happy yeast make better beer

Calder 12-14-2010 04:21 PM

I hate Black Malt. I would say dump it, you don't need it, and up the Choc to 0.75 lbs. You have plenty of dark Crystal in there.

If you have to have black, go with 0.25 lbs max.

I don't know if you will get down to 1.014 with that amount of speciality grains. Their sugars are fermentable, but they have a higher amount of unfermentable sugars than regular malt. Maybe 1.017. You could replace 1 lb of the LME with 1 lb of table sugar to get a couple of points lower. I wouldn't go more than a pound.

Add the flavor hops at 10 or 15 to go. Pretty much all the flavor is gone by 20.

Try and pitch yeast closer to ferment temps. 80 is a little high. It will work, but the yeast will start producing esters you might not want at that temp.

Recommend makiing a starter. You really don't know the health of the yeast.

At least 2 weeks in primary.

Maybe add a little licorice, or star annis.

cenla 12-14-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calder (Post 2476004)
If you have to have black, go with 0.25 lbs max.

but then you can never go back. ;)

seriously- I like black malt and have used it in multiple recipes. don't overdo it- it's easy to do. 4 to 8 oz. should be plenty for your recipe.

rayg 12-15-2010 08:18 PM

Doesn't look balanced to me. The amount of dark grains you
are using, and the large amount of black malt is appropriate
for what some call an "Imperial" stout, but the alcohol level
is too low. That much dark malt is really overkill, imo.

My porter uses the same dark malts but for a 5 gal batch its
.5 pound crystal 120
3 ounces black malt
1 oz chocolate malt.

Ray

Super64 12-16-2010 10:45 AM

I saw a piece on the net that quoted Ray Daniel's book "Designing Great Beers".

The article quotes the ratios for a porter as 55% pale malt, 11% crystal, 4% chocolate and 5% Black.

I replaced the pale with the LME - Light and adjusted the grains to match the above ratios as best I could.

Others quote the target values as OG 1.040+, 20-40 SRM, 18-35 or 55+ IBU.

According to QBrew, my numbers are OG 1.055, 29 SRM, 32 IBU.

Again, I needed a starting point before I began experimenting with adjuncts.

Calder, Rayg - how does that differ from what you do?

rayg 12-16-2010 05:45 PM

I just followed the recipe in Foster's book on porter,
but adapted the hopping to suit my taste.

Ray


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