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Old 09-30-2009, 03:32 AM   #1
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I've heard good and bad things about Coopers pre hopped kits. Are they really much worse quality than Muntons? I've found Coopers are much cheaper than Muntons.

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Old 09-30-2009, 03:37 AM   #2
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I've done both, and IMO they're pretty comparable.

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Old 09-30-2009, 05:04 PM   #3
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I've heard good and bad things about Coopers pre hopped kits. Are they really much worse quality than Muntons? I've found Coopers are much cheaper than Muntons.
Coopers beer kits make consistently good beer when you follow the manufacturer's instructions. For instance, I just made the new Coopers English Bitter and in my opinion it compares with any craft beer.
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I just bottled my second ESB in the past month with their English Bitter. I feel if you follow instructions you'll end up with a pretty small beer. I like to add a flavoring hop to their hops kits and about 4# of DME of sorts and go up to 5.50 or 6.00 gallon batches.

I've never had a real ESB or Bitter for that, but I know mine taste good. If I'm doing a pre-hopped extract I will ALWAYS do a Cooper's kit. I've just had great luck.

Also, it's impossible to screw up. I made their Euro Lager once (have one lagering now). I did EVERYTHING wrong. It was my first batch ever, and I pitched in the low 100°s easily. I fermented MUCH too warm, then I didn't let it age properly. The beer came out great.

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Old 09-30-2009, 05:49 PM   #5
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The best beers I've made have always been made with Cooper's kits. Never had an problems. The only things that go wrong are when I add something and it throws of the balance.

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I've had nothing but great success as well with the Cooper's kits! Unfortunately every style seems to use the same yeast (cooper's ale in the gold foil packet), so if you're looking for a different flavour try experimenting with different yeasts.

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Old 10-02-2009, 11:57 AM   #7
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I just picked up a Coopers prehopped kit, should I add DME is the extract good on it's own?


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I just picked up a Coopers prehopped kit, should I add DME is the extract good on it's own?


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You'll need to add DME. Probably about 2 or 3 pounds worth.

I have a SUPER easy Cooper Kit Formula:

This is for 5.5 gallon batches around 1.055 in gravity:
(1) pre-hopped Cooper's Kit
3# DME
1oz flavoring hop @ 10-15 minutes

It makes a slightly bigger (and more) beer than the kit recipe calls for. Since you're going bigger than they planned (the 3# vs 2#) you need to add a flavor hop.

You ABSOLUTELY cannot go wrong with that formula. It's my old stand by when AG gets me down.
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That is a great formula PeterP. That will definitely make a great extract beer!

Also one thing to note, if you notice any 'off' (like banana or overly fruity) flavours, just give it more time. If you're bottle/keg conditioning these extract beers definitely get better and better with age.

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You'll need to add DME. Probably about 2 or 3 pounds worth.

I have a SUPER easy Cooper Kit Formula:

This is for 5.5 gallon batches around 1.055 in gravity:
(1) pre-hopped Cooper's Kit
3# DME
1oz flavoring hop @ 10-15 minutes

It makes a slightly bigger (and more) beer than the kit recipe calls for. Since you're going bigger than they planned (the 3# vs 2#) you need to add a flavor hop.

You ABSOLUTELY cannot go wrong with that formula. It's my old stand by when AG gets me down.
i have a few cooper's kits now (real ale, sparkling ale, and stout) and that's the formula is was thinking, maybe with some steeping grains to style. do you do an hour boil?

seems kit doesn't need to be boiled, dme doesn't really benefit from extended boil, and if you're adding flavor hops at 10 minutes you could really just do a 10 minute boil?
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