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Old 04-18-2011, 12:17 PM   #11
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I'd recommend that you steep a lb of flaked oats for 30 before you start up your boil. It clouds the wit very much and lightened my extract wit from orange to a yellow golden.



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Old 04-18-2011, 04:49 PM   #12
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Add 20-50% of the extract at the beginning of the boil. Add the rest in the final 10-15 minutes. Use dry extract. LME will always come out darker.

Here's a beer I've made using this method. It can be done!
I second this, I just kegged a american wheat beer that used wheat dme and light dme and it is about the same color as hoegaarden.


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Old 04-18-2011, 04:55 PM   #13
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I second this, I just kegged a american wheat beer that used wheat dme and light dme and it is about the same color as hoegaarden.
Yup. I've brewed extract hefeweizens that are as light as any commercial version.
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:13 PM   #14
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Muntons and Briess both make wheat DME using 65/35% Wheat/Pilsner malts.

It's much harder to get a lighter beer made with LME. You can do it with dry extract.
Just a note I did not use LME in this recipe. It was 5.5 lbs of DME. Next time I brew a wheat I will not boil the entire extract and boil 50% near the end.
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:18 AM   #15
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Concur that the color is primarily due to kettle caramelization. Late addition will help with that.

Aromatic malt will also contribute significantly to color in that proportion. I'd omit it next time.

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I am not sure why but I have also noticed that Briess Wheat DME is lighter than Muntons Wheat DME.

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Old 04-19-2011, 04:30 PM   #17
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but you really want roughly 50/50 pilsner and wheat in that recipe usually.
^^ This. My Wit's that I did I used did a 50/50 wheat to barley ratio. Since the DME & LME I use is 65% Wheat and 35% barley I used 5lbs of Wheat LME from NothernBrewer and 1.75lbs of Briess Pilsen DME. Mine still came out more orange but I've had many commercial Wit's that were the same orangey color as the one I made. As mentioned it's harder to achieve such light colors using wheat extract. I'm stressing the wheat extract part cause you can get very light extract beers with Pilsen extract but Wit's use wheat and wheat extracts seem to mostly all have a more orange color than equivalent all grain wheats.


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Old 04-19-2011, 04:56 PM   #18
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Is it still beneficial to do a late DME addition even if doing a full boil?

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Is it still beneficial to do a late DME addition even if doing a full boil?
I'd made a thread a few weeks back testing late addition vs. full boil and for some odd reason it only had one reply. I thought more would be interested in it, but oh well. Here it is:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/my-non-scientific-dme-darkening-test-w-pic-comparison-236005/

I found it really doesn't seem to matter. The experiment though wasn't scientific but if there were to be a big noticeable difference like everyone always claims then I think it would be more noticeable in my test.


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Old 04-19-2011, 05:25 PM   #20
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I made a few extract wits and they always turned out very light, even before I started doing late extract additions.

I used 50% Extra Light DME
50% Light wheat DME

Then the yeast, orange, coriander, and hops.



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