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Old 09-02-2012, 03:48 AM   #1
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Default Bottle conditioning NOT WORKING

This is my 6th batch and I've never had a problem with under carbonated beer, but for some reason this cream ale refuses to carbonate. I did everything the same way I always do it. Tried one after 1 week, nothing. Tastes and smells great, just no carbonation. So I moved the bottles to where it might be 1 or 2 degrees warmer and shook them a little to agitate the yeast. Tried one after 2 weeks, nothing. Anyone have a thought as to what the crap happened here? Here are the specifics:

American cream ale
5.5 gal
OG - 1.046
FG - 1.011
IBU - 20
ABV - 4.8%
SRM - 5

4.6 lbs. light DME
1 lbs. flaked maize
3/4 lbs. Carapils
1/4 lbs. Munich

Mt. Hood - 3/4 oz. @ 60
Liberty - .5 oz. @ 15 and 2

Irish moss @ 15

WLP001 California ale yeast

Treated my tap water with Camden tabs.
Steeped grains in 2 gal. @ 154 for 30 min
Rinsed grains in 2 gal. @ 168 for 3 mi
Combined via siphon, added DME, brought to boil
Made hop and Irish moss additions
Cooled to 70, topped off, aerated, and pitched.

Primary @ 73 for 6 days
Secondary @ 72 for 6 days
Cold crashed for 1 day, brought back to 72 and bottled using 1 cup DME, 1/2 cup corn sugar in 2 cups water



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Old 09-02-2012, 01:07 PM   #2
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You cold crashed and bottled with DME, both of which will make the carbonation process longer. Just give it more time, 2 weeks isn't long enough to tell if something's wrong.

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You cold crashed and bottled with DME, both of which will make the carbonation process longer. Just give it more time, 2 weeks isn't long enough to tell if something's wrong.
I second all of this.
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Yup,def needs more time. Mine seem to peak at 4 weeks in the bottle,then 1-2 weeks fridge time. But the DME could also need more time to work it's magic.
I personally was always concerned about cold crashing. I keep wondering if that could settle out too much yeast in certain situations? That could be a contributing factor...
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Wow, you carbed with 1c DME and 1/2c corn sugar? That's about 1c DME than I use for priming sugar. Normally I use 2/3c table sugar. And you have no carbination? You may have a problem that won't fix over time. After 2wks, my tripel still wasn't carbed. It's been 8wks and the plastic bottle I use to test carb levels is still very squishy.

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So you don't have to open bottles to check carb levels, use one PET bottle so you can squeeze it to check how it's carbing.

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Wow, you carbed with 1c DME and 1/2c corn sugar? That's about 1c DME than I use for priming sugar. Normally I use 2/3c table sugar.
But you need a total of 1.5 cups of DME which would be about equal to 2/3 cups corn sugar- so that amount sounds perfect. DME has less fermentables in it and you need to use far more.

Normally, a better way to measure priming sugar/DME/honey/table sugar is by weight, not by volume. I'd suggest a small cheap kitchen scale to measure hops, priming sugars, and other additives. It's far more accurate.
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*side note*
So you don't have to open bottles to check carb levels, use one PET bottle so you can squeeze it to check how it's carbing.[/QUOTE]

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Good idea re plastic bottles (sorry still haven't figured out how to do those blue quote boxes)

If I'm measuring priming sugars by weight, then how much is normal for a typical batch of average gravity beer? (DME, corn sugar, etc.)

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Good idea re plastic bottles (sorry still haven't figured out how to do those blue quote boxes)

If I'm measuring priming sugars by weight, then how much is normal for a typical batch of average gravity beer? (DME, corn sugar, etc.)
You normally use 1 oz of dextrose per gallon of finished beer (5 oz total for 5 gallons). For DME, that would be about 9 oz by weight to equal about the same carb level. For table sugar, about 4.7 ounces would be the same.


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