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Old 08-15-2009, 03:13 AM   #11
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this is my first post in what seems like ages.

From what I've read here a lot of people agree that if you use an extract you can end up with a weird extract like twinge to your final product.
I'm sure fresh fruit is a better option, but fwiw, I've had *fantastic* results with fruit extracts from NB. I made their raspberry wheat a while back and it was great.
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Old 08-16-2009, 02:41 PM   #12
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wow Dubbel! thats what mine is looking to finish like. Also whats that "Brew America" thing all about? Are they kits? I thought I was being original with the name "Blue Eyed Blonde" but now that I think about it I suppose it makes sense that theres one out there already.
Nahhh, that's just me. Someone on here mentioned red, white and blue beers - I can't find the post anymore - but it got me thinking. So this is what I came up with: Beermerica.

So not kits, but I'm flattered that it looks that way... I'm a graphic artist. Must be doing something right!

The blonde recipe is Biermuncher's Centennial Blonde, and the saison is my friend Jay's Saison de Trubbel. Just added fruit to each. The wit is an amalgam of about 5 wit recipes I found on here. All three are top notch though!

Finally, my wife is a "Blue-Eyed Blonde", so....
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Old 08-16-2009, 02:43 PM   #13
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Oh, and I did fruit/secondary in a bucket... Extra headspace, easy access (no carboy necks) and I didn't want to risk staining my Better Bottles.

Primary: 6 gal. Better Bottle > 2ndary: Ale Pail > 3rdary: 5 gallon glass carboy

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Old 08-16-2009, 03:20 PM   #14
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yeah those look really cool. I love the tap handles. I'd really like to give the wit a try it looks fantastic.

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Old 08-16-2009, 06:48 PM   #15
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How does this look? I'll add about 6lbs of frozen blueberries in secondary. I am also going to attempt a stove top partial mash .. Any suggestions on ingredients or general tips?

Type: Partial Mash
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer: Lance
Boil Size: 4.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Brew Pot (5 Gallon)
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 (guessing)

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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 lb Wheat Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 34.78 %
6.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 52.17 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 8.70 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4.35 %
0.50 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (60 min) Hops 10.3 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (30 min) Hops 5.1 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
5.00 gal Seattle, WA Water
1 Pkgs Belgian Wit Ale (White Labs #WLP400) Yeast-Wheat

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Est Original Gravity: 1.064 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.40 %
Bitterness: 18.7 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 7.2 SRM

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I think these recipes sound great. But won't you see a second fermentation with the addition of real fruit (fructose). And how would you account for this change in gravity?

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wow Dubbel! thats what mine is looking to finish like. Also whats that "Brew America" thing all about? Are they kits? I thought I was being original with the name "Blue Eyed Blonde" but now that I think about it I suppose it makes sense that theres one out there already.

Timid - I guess that makes sense. when adding fruit going into "secondary" do you move down to a 5 gallon carboy or do you use another 6 gal so you don't lose beer due to the volume of fruit? When I racked to the tertiary I noticed how much I actually lost by adding to a 5 gal secondary rather than something larger.
I have always used another 6 gallon (or 7.5 gallon) whichever size I have. Can't remember. But someone mentioned using a bucket and wow, that sounds way easier. Might try that next time.
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I have always used another 6 gallon (or 7.5 gallon) whichever size I have. Can't remember. But someone mentioned using a bucket and wow, that sounds way easier. Might try that next time.
yeah a bucket does seem to make more sense for cleaning

woolseal - adding the additional fruit causes another krausen to form, but in the grand scheme of things the level of fermenting that goes on from the addition of the fruit is nothing in comparison to the primary ferment. It may throw off the final gravity but only by a very small amount. or am I totally off on this?
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How does this look? I'll add about 6lbs of frozen blueberries in secondary. I am also going to attempt a stove top partial mash .. Any suggestions on ingredients or general tips?

Type: Partial Mash
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer: Lance
Boil Size: 4.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Brew Pot (5 Gallon)
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 (guessing)

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 lb Wheat Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 34.78 %
6.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 52.17 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 8.70 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4.35 %
0.50 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (60 min) Hops 10.3 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (30 min) Hops 5.1 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 3.3 IBU
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
5.00 gal Seattle, WA Water
1 Pkgs Belgian Wit Ale (White Labs #WLP400) Yeast-Wheat

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.064 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.40 %
Bitterness: 18.7 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 7.2 SRM
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There is too much going on with this brew if it's your first time with fruit. I'd tone it down in ABV%, hops, and the yeast to save on cost until you know that you can handle the extra process of adding sanitary fruit to your beer. First, if you're mashing 6+lbs. of grain why add extract at all? Just do an all-grain brew with a few more lbs of grain. Second, a bittering hop addition only keeps things simple and makes the fruit the star of the show. Third, the belgian strains like temps. a bit warmer and the esters produced will only muddy the aroma and taste of your blueberry.

These are my opinions to someone looking to brew their first fruit beer. I've made a few and the ones that are requested for a repeat are always low in abv beers fermented with a clean yeast (S-05 almost always) and are pretty lightly hopped to let the fruit sing.

Just my .02
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Only answering because you asked:

There is too much going on with this brew if it's your first time with fruit. I'd tone it down in ABV%, hops, and the yeast to save on cost until you know that you can handle the extra process of adding sanitary fruit to your beer. First, if you're mashing 6+lbs. of grain why add extract at all? Just do an all-grain brew with a few more lbs of grain. Second, a bittering hop addition only keeps things simple and makes the fruit the star of the show. Third, the belgian strains like temps. a bit warmer and the esters produced will only muddy the aroma and taste of your blueberry.

These are my opinions to someone looking to brew their first fruit beer. I've made a few and the ones that are requested for a repeat are always low in abv beers fermented with a clean yeast (S-05 almost always) and are pretty lightly hopped to let the fruit sing.

Just my .02
Thanks for your feedback, I think you are right. This is also my first attempt at a partial mash. Simpler probably would be better. I mostly wanted to use up some stuff I have on hand. Any suggestions based on what I have?

2- 3lb bags of dry wheat extract
3- 3lb bags of dry light extract
3- 6lb bags of liquid light extract
0.50 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %]
1- Pkgs Belgian Wit Ale (White Labs #WLP400)
1- package of Safale04


I can pick up hops and grain from my local brew store to complete whatever. I like IPAs, Pales, Blondes, Reds, Hefs.. I currently have a hef on tap right now so would prefer to shy from that a bit unless you have an idea for something great.. Anything jump out at you?
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