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Dionysos911 08-13-2009 06:55 PM

Blueberry Wheat Help
 
I just ordered some wheat extract and WLP400 Belgium Wit yeast and would love to experiment making a blueberry wheat beer but have no experience working with fruit yet. Any tips or advice for the best way to go about adding the fruit and getting a nice deep color out of it?

Also any recipe ideas would be great!

Dextersmom 08-13-2009 08:00 PM

this is my first post in what seems like ages.

I'm currently fermenting a blueberry blonde. There are several ways to add fruit flavor to your beers. All have pros and cons. You could buy extracts, canned purees, or use fresh / frozen fruit. From what I've read here a lot of people agree that if you use an extract you can end up with a weird extract like twinge to your final product. I haven't heard anything bad about canned puree, but when I looked into using some for this brew the price made me turn away and try for using fresh / frozen fruit. A rule of thumb that I read on BYO was that you should start off adding roughly a half pound of fruit per gallon of beer. For my batch here I added 3 lbs (a half pound extra because I didn't want to hold onto the extra half pound). To sanitize the fruit I pureed it in my food processor added it to a pot with a cup or two of water (in an effort to stop the berries from turning to jelly while I boiled them, i've also read that you can mix fresh fruit puree with campden tablets that are used with making wine) and boiled for 10 minutes. I funneled them into an empty secondary then siphoned the primary on top. It gave the blonde an interesting purple color. after about 3 to 4 weeks in the secondary I siphoned into a tertiary as there was a huge amount of sediment in the bottom. while siphoning the color in the siphoning tube looked really great, not too purple, almost like a beer I've had from bluepoint breweries on Long Island where I'm originally from. Next week I will be bottling, the beer will only have been in the tertiary for one week, just an effort to drop any other fruit bits that might still have been stuck in suspension and to help further clear it. I'll be priming with a full cup of corn sugar as its been explained to me that a slightly higher carbonation will hell the aromatics of the final product.

My recipe for the "Blue Eyed Blonde" is as follows:
3.3 lbs extra light dme
3.3 lbs light dme
.5 lbs carapils
1 oz cascade @ 60 min
1 oz cascade @ 15 min
Pitched Wyeast 1056 American Ale
3 lbs Frozen Blueberries (in secondary)


here is a good article on byo regarding adding fruit to beer
Brew Your Own: The How-To Homebrew Beer Magazine - Recipes - Fruit Brew, Part 2: Techniques


hope this helped out!

Dionysos911 08-13-2009 08:21 PM

That blue eyed blonde sounds GREAT!

I think I will try the frozen blueberry tactic. That sounds safest with the best results. Thanks for the tips! I look forward to hearing about your blonde. :mug:

Hetuck 08-13-2009 09:07 PM

I hate to ask a dumb question but uh.......what is a "tertiary?" I've never heard that term before. Though, it sounds like a secondary fermentation device. By the way, that Blue Eyed Blonde sounds absolutely orgasmic! I'm going to give that baby a try one of these days:rockin:

Yamaha81 08-13-2009 10:12 PM

I just cracked open a blueberry wheat i made this week i used 2 oz of extract it came out a little syrupy. I think real fruit would be much better!

Dextersmom 08-14-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hetuck (Post 1486324)
I hate to ask a dumb question but uh.......what is a "tertiary?" I've never heard that term before. Though, it sounds like a secondary fermentation device. By the way, that Blue Eyed Blonde sounds absolutely orgasmic! I'm going to give that baby a try one of these days:rockin:

tertiary would just be a the next step after a secondary (honestly i've never heard of anyone ever doing this). I only did it because there was so much yeast and blueberry sediment in my secondary that I felt nothing more was going to settle out until I got the beer off of it. Only doing the 3rd stage for a week then bottling. Only thing i'm a little worried about is if there will be enough yeast in suspension to carb, or will i need to pitch some for bottling. Sure do wish I had a keg setup so i could force carb.

Thanks, its my second fruit beer and first real try after reading the BYO article. I'm hoping it comes out nice. I've been brewing with the seasons this year. I'm not a major fruit beer fan, but figured it'd be a nice end of summer beer.

DubbelDach 08-14-2009 07:42 PM

Pics of blue-Eyed Blonde: click here

I used canned Oregon blueberries... 3 lbs added to 2ndary. I racked to tertiary (3rd fermentor) to clear it. Loads of color, and just the right amount of flavor!

One of my favorites ever.

timdsmith72 08-14-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dextersmom (Post 1487629)
tertiary would just be a the next step after a secondary (honestly i've never heard of anyone ever doing this).

I do it every time I use real fruit. Just because there is so much in the secondary and this help clear it up.

Dextersmom 08-14-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DubbelDach (Post 1488253)
Pics of blue-Eyed Blonde: click here

I used canned Oregon blueberries... 3 lbs added to 2ndary. I racked to tertiary (3rd fermentor) to clear it. Loads of color, and just the right amount of flavor!

One of my favorites ever.

wow Dubbel! thats what mine is looking to finish like. Also whats that "Brew America" thing all about? Are they kits? I thought I was being original with the name "Blue Eyed Blonde" but now that I think about it I suppose it makes sense that theres one out there already.

Timid - I guess that makes sense. when adding fruit going into "secondary" do you move down to a 5 gallon carboy or do you use another 6 gal so you don't lose beer due to the volume of fruit? When I racked to the tertiary I noticed how much I actually lost by adding to a 5 gal secondary rather than something larger.

zman 08-14-2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubbelDach (Post 1488253)
Pics of blue-Eyed Blonde: click here

I used canned Oregon blueberries... 3 lbs added to 2ndary. I racked to tertiary (3rd fermentor) to clear it. Loads of color, and just the right amount of flavor!

One of my favorites ever.

a very sexy brew indeed. I am going to do s simple wheat tomorrow (ag) and I am thinking of using real blueberries as well. I ma thinking 6-7lbs in the secondary.


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