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SteveLikesBeer 05-21-2013 02:43 PM

Before SMaSH there is SHaME
I'm still very green to brewing but I want to be able to get some of the learning experience that SMaSH gives. People seem to have different views of how hops taste and smell (my girlfriend swears IPA's are sweet) which leads me to believe first hand experience of how one experiences hops is the better than following general descriptions. Since I'm doing extract I can't do a single malt and single hop (SMaSH) but I can do a single malt extract and single hop in an attempt to learn how I perceive hop bitter, flavor and aroma. As far as I know there isn't a name for it, though I have seen recipes which do just this. Assuming there isn't already already a name for it I propose SHaME!

Proposed rules for SHaME:
  1. Only 1 Hop Variety: For instance, only chinook from start of boil to dry hop.
  2. Only 1 LME or DME Style: Must be of the light variety.
  3. Steeping grains are not allowed: Only 1 LME/DME Style

Fellow extract brewers .... thoughts?

brtisbuck 05-21-2013 08:25 PM

Extract, especially as you increase in color, already has specialty grains in it. It would be closer to a smash if you used say only extra light extract, but then if you add crystal it no longer is even close to single malt. For instance, NB's Pilsen LME is pilsner malt and carapils. By adding crystal it is now 3 malts.

To me you are just making a single hop extract brew to "x" style in the end. I recently made an IPA that way - the only things that went into the pot were water, pale LME, and centennial hops.

SteveLikesBeer 05-21-2013 11:08 PM

Good points. Updating the "rules".

davekippen 05-21-2013 11:22 PM

SHaME, I love it!

SteveLikesBeer 05-23-2013 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by davekippen (Post 5212453)
SHaME, I love it!

:) figured it was a fun name.

Sir-Hops-A-Lot 08-30-2013 12:26 AM

I love the SHaMe idea!

To learn the taste of a hop just try it with a couple of mini batches with different extracts. Or you can split a batch into 2 brew pots to do different hops and/or yeasts.

In my mind the real value to looking for good combinations of extract and hops is that it takes just over an hour to brew a batch with just extracts and hops. That my friend, is a lot easier than setting up the equipment to spend 5 hours of all grain brewing.

sheldonsteen 08-30-2013 01:42 AM

Excluding an extract because it includes Carapils seems arbitrary. Carapils doesn't typically impact flavor, just mouthfeel and head retention. I can understand if it includes other specialty malts, but Carapils is mostly aesthetic. Love the SHaME idea, btw.

inflictor-of-grimness 08-30-2013 02:06 PM

I have an easy solution to doing a single malt beer with extract. Northern Brewer's Maris Otter extract syrup. It's 100% MO

beerluvva 09-08-2013 06:09 PM

All my brewing is a SHaME, I am unashamed to say. Always pleased with the results, especially considering time/effort trade off compared to the more complex AG processes. It gives more focus to plus other factors such as temperature and yeast that have a lot to do with flavor, the grain bill+hop schedule aside.

Sir-Hops-A-Lot 09-11-2013 10:58 PM

I had a SMASH brew the other day that could become a SHAME brew
Marris Otter and Citra using Saf-05 yeast

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