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ReverseApacheMaster · 08-24-2012, 03:47 PM

Not really a sweet stout without lactose, if you meant sweet stout as in a milk stout or cream stout.

Either way, you need some flaked barley and/or flaked oats.

brycelarson · 08-24-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by inhousebrew

You could start with a half pound, maybe a pound. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here but steeping oatmeal won't convert itself right? Therefore you'll get some extra body and mouthfeel but it won't add any sugars to the brew.

I like to use flaked oats - basically quick cook oats. They're steamed when they roll them out - meaning they're already partially pre-converted.

I use up to a pound of oats in my stouts - much more and they start getting really thick mouth feel. Maybe that's what you're after, dunno.

Anyway, you can basically make some thin oatmeal in your wort as you steep.

wormraper · 08-24-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brycelarson

I like to use flaked oats - basically quick cook oats. They're steamed when they roll them out - meaning they're already partially pre-converted.

I use up to a pound of oats in my stouts - much more and they start getting really thick mouth feel. Maybe that's what you're after, dunno.

Anyway, you can basically make some thin oatmeal in your wort as you steep.

interesting. so you can just use the standard quick cook oats from the grocery store vs. from the brew shop??? (would rather pay $0.69 a lb from the farmers market for rolled oats then $2.25 a lb from the brew shop)

wormraper · 08-24-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ReverseApacheMaster

Not really a sweet stout without lactose, if you meant sweet stout as in a milk stout or cream stout.

Either way, you need some flaked barley and/or flaked oats.

I was just going by the title of the recipe "Sweet Wheat Stout" ... it's surprisingly sweet for a stout that isn't a milk stout though. probably from the 1.018 final gravity

brycelarson · 08-24-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

interesting. so you can just use the standard quick cook oats from the grocery store vs. from the brew shop??? (would rather pay $0.69 a lb from the farmers market for rolled oats then $2.25 a lb from the brew shop)

yup - I buy oats in bulk at the co-op. I think they're under $0.50 a pound.

http://www.howtobrew.com/section2/chapter12-2.html

I've also used a mix of really nice steel cut oats and quick cook. The steel cut have a nuttier flavor - it's a subtle difference but I was trying to dial in an oatmeal stout recipe and trying lots of combinations.

robbyhicks · 08-24-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by inhousebrew

You could start with a half pound, maybe a pound. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here but steeping oatmeal won't convert itself right? Therefore you'll get some extra body and mouthfeel but it won't add any sugars to the brew.

Been discussing the oats over in the gluten-free forum... What ive been getting is that on its own the flaked grains, oats, corn, rice, will not convert due to low or no enzymes, if you are adding to a reg wort you will get some conversion as the barley/wheat have the enzyme...

wormraper · 08-25-2012, 08:42 PM

ok, one more stupid question. since I'm just going for body and mouthfeel I don't need to do a cereal mash for the oats right??? just steep at 160 degrees for an hour with the rest of my specialty grains? or should I at least cook the oats on the stovetop before adding them to the steeping bag

brycelarson · 08-26-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

ok, one more stupid question. since I'm just going for body and mouthfeel I don't need to do a cereal mash for the oats right??? just steep at 160 degrees for an hour with the rest of my specialty grains? or should I at least cook the oats on the stovetop before adding them to the steeping bag

You can pre-cook the oats if you want to. The flaked should add some goodness with just the steep - but if you use steel cut or other less modified oats then the cooking would be helpful.