AB Clone

BleedsDogFish · 04-22-2008, 06:15 PM

I'm doing an AB clone tonight from AHS. The recipe is for a half boil, but i intend to a full boil. Do I need to make any adjustments to the hop addition amounts and times.
All Chinook
2.5 at 0
3/4 at 45
1/2 at 55

Thanks, I am super excited to make this kit....

blacklab · 04-22-2008, 06:30 PM

That seems like a lot of hops for an Anheuser Busch clone.

Glibbidy · 04-22-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blacklab

That seems like a lot of hops for an Anheuser Busch clone.

LOL!

It really depends on the AA% of those hops. Are you planning a 60 minute boil or a 90 minute boil?
Are you planning on dry hopping this beer?

BleedsDogFish · 04-22-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blacklab

That seems like a lot of hops for an Anheuser Busch clone.

Pardon my abbreviation error, AB was supposed to be Arrogant Bastard. I am laughing at the Anheuser clone comment, I make an Anheuser clone every morning in the bathroom.

The boil will be 60 minutes, with a late extract addition. No dry hopping.

blacklab · 04-22-2008, 07:39 PM

Sorry, couldn't resist. 2.5 seems like a lot for the bittering addition. I would personally use 1 oz and do more late additions if you're looking for a big hop presence. Then dry hop as well. BUT, that woudn't be a clone, then would it?

I would search this forum for 'hop utilization'(I know I've seen some discussions of this exact issue, but some time ago), OR just email AHS and ask them for their AG hop schedule for this kit.

**Yooper** · 04-22-2008, 07:43 PM

If you're doing a full boil, there isn't any reason to do late extract addition. You'll want to use all the extract in the boil, just as you would if you were doing an AG boil. You can start with about 6.25 gallons or so, and it'll be boiled down to about 5.25 or so, depending on your evaporation rate. My AB clone is AG, but the hopping rate should be the same:

1.25 oz Chinook [14.30 %] (90 min) Hops 56.4 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [14.30 %] (30 min) Hops 32.4 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops

(A 60 minute boil vs a 90 minute boil would not make much difference in the hops- maybe 4 IBUs or so. I boil 90 minutes, but 60 would work if that's your plan).

BleedsDogFish · 04-22-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by YooperBrew

If you're doing a full boil, there isn't any reason to do late extract addition. You'll want to use all the extract in the boil, just as you would if you were doing an AG boil. You can start with about 6.25 gallons or so, and it'll be boiled down to about 5.25 or so, depending on your evaporation rate. My AB clone is AG, but the hopping rate should be the same:

1.25 oz Chinook [14.30 %] (90 min) Hops 56.4 IBU
1.00 oz Chinook [14.30 %] (30 min) Hops 32.4 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops

(A 60 minute boil vs a 90 minute boil would not make much difference in the hops- maybe 4 IBUs or so. I boil 90 minutes, but 60 would work if that's your plan).

So, do you think a 90 minute boil would be best or does it matter vs the 60? And the recipe has 4 oz of hops i'm sure the extra hops wont hurt but where should they go?

**Yooper** · 04-22-2008, 09:00 PM

If you're doing a full boil, you get better hops utilization. That hopping schedule gives me 89 IBUS in about a SG of 1.070. I only need 2.75 ounces of 14.3 % AAU chinook to get me there. Your hopping may vary, if you have lesser AAU % in your hops, but the schedule should be the same.

The recipe you got from AHS would assume a partial boil, that's why there are more hops. What does the recipe say you should have for IBUs?

BleedsDogFish · 04-22-2008, 09:04 PM

The recipe doesn't mention IBU's , and I'm not all that concerned with this beer tasting spot on with the Bastard. I assume at full boil if I add the hops listed it will be hoppier which doesn't bother me much. So , i guess a half ounce of hops difference wont make the beer off balance which is my only concern.

**Yooper** · 04-22-2008, 09:07 PM

In my opinion, an extra half ounce of 14% AAUs hops is alot. You can run it through some software to see how much. Or one of us can do it for you. I like hoppy beers, and I like the AB clone very much. But chinook can be harsh and in very large doses, it might take months to mellow. Just my opinion, of course.